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#1 nodep5

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:02 AM

So I have been glancing at everyone's fav's for this past year and I haven't seen that many mentions for April by Sun Kil Moon. It barely makes my list of favorites for 08, which was a tad disappointing considering how much I loved Ghosts of The Great Highway and Sun Kil Moon's Modest Mouse Covers Album (can't think of the title). I know the Modest Mouse covers didn't get a lot of love but it single handidly made me like Modest Mouse (that is cool). Anyway, I thought April was a little tired sounding (which isn't a Mark Koselek joke). Any thoughts?

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:20 AM

Tiny Cities (Sun Kil Moon covers Modest Mouse)

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:30 AM

My daughter and I were just discussing April yesterday. Ghosts or April? She sided with Ghosts. I lean toward April. I think the songwriting has more depth on April. The music is not as immediate as Ghosts, but it grows.
Tiny Cities - merely nice.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:43 AM

i love ghosts but april put me to sleep. i've tried other stuff of mark's & had the same reaction as listening to april.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:50 AM

Hey while we are talking about sad depressing stuff, anyone heard Damien Jurado's Caught In The Trees? Just when I think I don't need any more sad stuff I'll here Damien Jurado's voice and it grabs me and pulls me in. Listen to "I Am Still Here" from Now That I'm In Your Shadow and you'll know what I mean

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:53 AM

i love ghosts but april put me to sleep. i've tried other stuff of mark's & had the same reaction as listening to april.



I kind of agree. Ghosts had great musical hooks to keep you interested, Tiny Cities was short and sweet, while April meanders. I'm not saying it isn't pleasant and that Lost Versus and Moorestown aren't beautiful, but as a whole it become overwhelming in the sleepy way. I also had this reaction to most of his Red House Painters albums.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 10:00 AM

i really think april is either on par or close to ghosts.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 12:28 PM

I have yet to make it all the way through April. Ghosts is among my favorites of the decade.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:01 PM

April was my #3 on the year... it's amazing
not quite as great as Ghosts, but for me, insanely close... (i'd say Ghosts was a 9.4, April is a 9.0)

one of the best late night records in years. i'd argue with those who were disappointed by it to give it a bunch more chances, namely late at night... then again i love RHP too...

i'd also be curious what songs exactly are people getting hung up on April... i agree it's a daunting and long listen, no question, but to me it feels very much like a sequel to Ghosts thematically & sonically.

Tiny Cities however... was mad dull... a few covers worked (maybe 3-4), but overall the record was all the same tempo and tone making it a very homogeneous listen

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:30 PM

Loved Ghosts. April didn't do a thing for me, though.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:35 PM

:/

i can see not liking it as much, but a THING? the album has 4-5 songs as good as anything on Ghosts for me... (Lost Verses, Moorestown, Tonight The Sky, Like The River (Oldham sounds amazing on this), & Tonight In Bilbao)

Lost Verses might be the best song he's written under the Sun Kil Moon moniker (previously i'd say it was Carry Me Ohio). that breakdown when the electric guitar & drums drops in KILLS me

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:44 PM

Ok, ok. "Lost Verses" is a good song...OK, a great song. My bad.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:47 PM

nah, it's cool if people don't like it. just surprised somewhat i guess. i'll fully admit i'm a Kozelek fanboy, as grumpy and dry as he can be, the guy writes some of the most gorgeous compositions in popular music for me. like... i'd probably put him ahead of Sigur Ros just in terms of the shear beauty of his music.

would be curious to know if most of the folks who don't like April love Red House Painters or got into Mark via Ghosts, maybe that's part of it. although I think April certainly sounds much more like Ghosts than RHP.

as for Lost Verses, considering the heavy part doesn't come until after the 8 minute mark, it's not a song for the impatient listener, not gonna deny that, but the slow (but gorgeous) build-up is totally worth it for the swirling Neil Young-esque guitars that close out the song.

with a username of Zuma, i'd imagine you at least enjoy the Crazy Horse-esque 'Tonight The Sky'? :brow

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 02:18 PM

It is always going be a complete mystery of why people hear what they hear. I can't tell you how my mind was blown the first time I heard a Mark Koselek song. I was in my car listening to the college radio station here in Columbia MO, and they played "Glenn Tipton". It was one of those moments where you almost pull the car over and say "what the hell is that, did Neil Young just write one of his best songs in the last 30 years?" Anyway, so that is how I first got into anything by Mark K. April just didn't do that, but i'll admit that "Lost Versus" is a real rewarding listen. I just listened to Tiny Cities on vinyl last night and I love it and always have loved that record. Who knows?

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 02:27 PM

My biggest hang up with April is over half the songs clock in at nearly six minutes or greater. I love the music, but at about 5 mins I am like get on with it, already.

Other then that Sun Kil Moon is fantastic, and April is great. prolly 8 in my top 10 of 2008.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 02:28 PM

nah, it's cool if people don't like it. just surprised somewhat i guess. i'll fully admit i'm a Kozelek fanboy, as grumpy and dry as he can be, the guy writes some of the most gorgeous compositions in popular music for me. like... i'd probably put him ahead of Sigur Ros just in terms of the shear beauty of his music.

would be curious to know if most of the folks who don't like April love Red House Painters or got into Mark via Ghosts, maybe that's part of it. although I think April certainly sounds much more like Ghosts than RHP.

as for Lost Verses, considering the heavy part doesn't come until after the 8 minute mark, it's not a song for the impatient listener, not gonna deny that, but the slow (but gorgeous) build-up is totally worth it for the swirling Neil Young-esque guitars that close out the song.

with a username of Zuma, i'd imagine you at least enjoy the Crazy Horse-esque 'Tonight The Sky'? :brow


For some reason, "Tonight the Sky" didn't do it for me. The "Ohio" resemblance just fell flat.

But, maybe I need to listen to the whole album again.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 02:34 PM

April feels so sleepy to me. I listen to it when I nap sometimes.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 02:45 PM

My biggest hang up with April is over half the songs clock in at nearly six minutes or greater. I love the music, but at about 5 mins I am like get on with it, already.


gotcha... as a huge Built To Spill/Crazy Horse fan... i can't get enough of the 6-10 minute epics myself :music

i'll admit the album as a whole might have fared better if it was paired down to 60 minutes or so, but i have no complaints personally as it stands.

April feels so sleepy to me. I listen to it when I nap sometimes.


kinda like Sigur Ros - ( ) and BSS - Feel Good Lost, those are my sleeping records, absolutely love 'em

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 03:37 PM

I haven't heard April, except for a song what was playing on the radio when I drove in just now. Strangely I like Tiny Cities...

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 04:43 PM

ok, i'll play here. outside of the obvious favourites--namely "Lost Verses," "Moorestown," and "Tonight the Sky"--I found this to be pretty disappointing when I first head it last March. It was a real struggle for me to make it through the album without my attention waning, and I kinda shelved it for a bit, mainly because it's not exactly a summer disc. But I came back to Kozelek hard starting in late September/early October and this just seemed so much more...full. It was as if the record needed a gestation period for it to properly come to life, or maybe I just needed time to shift my expectations as to what this record was going to be, because Ghosts of the Great Highway it is not. After eight months or so, the songs that I've come to like a lot are the shorter ones like "Unlit Hallways" and "Harper Road." Songs that aren't doing it? "Heron Blue" and the last track, which I can't even remember the name of and is an extremely weak closing song. Despite all that, when I wrote my best of 08 list last night, this ended up in the #4 slot. So, there you go. "Lost Verses" is without a doubt in my top 5 songs of the year. Those Ben Gibbard backing vocals in the chorus and then that outro...damn. Get me every time.

My introduction to Kozelek's material came thru Ghosts, and my fave RHP disc is probably Songs for a Blue Guitar, although Rollercoaster is fantastic as well.

From Tiny Cities, there's about four or five pretty good covers. "Neverending Math Question," "Space Travel is Boring," "Trucker's Atlas" and "Ocean Breathes Salty." The rest are pretty much completely disposable.




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