Jesusetc84
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Good songs, for sure. But think of how much space Mountain Bed, Spiders and Almost take up on a disc. That being said, 6+ minute tracks like Misunderstood, Sunken Treasure, IATTBYH and Handshake Drugs are critical on a release like this. I'd be willing to sacrifice some of the SBS and WTA tracks to accommodate some of the aforementioned songs that were excluded, maybe even Can't Stand It - but since this has to be more of a "mass appeal" release I can see why they left those out. Tough to whittle a band as brilliant as Wilco down to two discs.
Wilco is just a generally poor choice for a best of due to song length (average song is about 4 1/2 minutes.) and due to (in my opinion) being an artist from the old school of making and listening to albums as complete works of art. They're not a hits artist, nor an iPod shuffle artist. They're a dog eared vinyl band. :-)
My personal best of I came up with when I heard this was being made was:
Disc 1:
01. I Must Be High
02. Box Full of Letters
03. Pasenger Side
04. Misunderstood
05. Monday
06. Outtasite (Outtamind)
07. I Got You (At the End of the Century)
08. Sunken Treasure
09. California Stars
10. One By One
11. When The Roses Bloom Again
12. Can't Stand It
13. She's a Jar
14. A Shot in the Arm
15. I'm Always in Love
16. Via Chicago
17. Airline to Heaven
18. Remember the Mountain Bed
Disc 2:
01. I Am Trying to Break Your Heart
02. Jesus, Etc
03. Ashes of American Flags
04. Heavy Metal Drummer
05. Poor Places
06. Spiders (Kidsmoke)
07. Handshake Drugs
08. Wishful Thinking
09. Theologians
10. Impossible Germany
11. Hate it Here
12. One Wing
13. You and I (w/ Feist)
14. I Might
15. Art of Almost
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Missing: "Poor Places", "Remember the Mountain Bed", "Spiders", "Wishful Thinking", "One Wing", "Art of Almost".
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While it's nifty that we'll finally have all of these tracks in one location, I always felt that the officially released B-sides were just the surface of the rich world of non-LP Wilco. Not only were some of my dream tracks not included (Studio versions of "Let's Fight", "My Words", an early version of "Spiders", the alleged 10 extra songs from the Being There sessions), even surfaced but unreleased gems like "Venus Stopped the Train" failed to make an appearance.
If this is just the tip of the iceberg as some have optimistically said, then it's fine. I'm fine with this being the Past Masters before deluxe album reissues with the true deep cuts. If this is truly "Adios Mother Fucker" on archival Wilco, I'll find this release pretty bitterly disappointing. It's literally the least imaginative boxed set they could've come up with; all the officially released B-sides in chronological order.
This is basically charging us for a compilation that's been on torrents across the internet for years, vs. offering us "sunken treasure."
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I still haven't heard the David Kahne mix of "Nothing'sever..." is it any good?
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The Sales figures on wikipedia are primarily based on the now 7 year old Learning to Die; do we have anymore up-to-date sales figures?
I know that as of 2009's Spin Magazine cover story, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was upto 642,000 copies in the United States, but that's really the extent of my knowledge. Anyone have anything more concrete?
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Wilco's next album will infuse ragtime with the spoken-word jazz of Gil Scott-Heron along with shoegaze. Travesty or tragedy? Nonesuch won't be the judge.
add Auto-tune and it sounds cool to me. hahaha.
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I have heard "One Wing" at Publix and Walgreen's. My former roommate heard it up in Lexington, MA at a McDonald's.
One Wing! With a coke and fries dear
neither yours or mine
I fear it'll go down to your thighs!
...sorry had to.
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I always kind of wanted a boxed set or deluxe editions with rarities...I know I'm greedy.
Some stuff I would want (if it still exists/ ever did):
"Let's Hear it For Rock"- a good quality studio version.
John Stirratt A.M. Songs- John submitted 3 songs for inclusion on A.M. Only one made it.
Being There Outtakes- according to Learning to Die, the album came from a pool of about 30 songs.
"Nothingsevergonnastandinmyway(again)- David Kahne single remix only available on promo cds.
"Whispery Kisses"- a Finished version of this song.
"Jesus, Etc"- the original demo recording that Jay Bennett did, and Tweedy sang over.
"Spiders"- a studio version of the early arrangement.
"My Words"- full band studio version
SBS Outtakes- supposedly there were 6 SBS outtakes...We have 4. Still 2 left. Maybe a studio version of "Let's Fight"?
In addition to these, all of the b-sides and stuff we already have would make a pretty sweet boxed set.
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I like Wilco (The Album). It has several good songs, and is much better than Sky Blue Sky which is "Impossible Germany" (great song) and the 11 crappiest songs Wilco has written since A.M..
That said, I haven't found Wilco nearly as captivating since Jay left, and now that he's gone for good, I have some doubts that Wilco will ever get their brilliance back.
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I heard a Vinyl rip of "Via Chicago" the other day...I'm seriously considering buying a turntable just so I can have Wilco's albums on vinyl.
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Fair point, I was discussing Wilco and not Jeff. I'd love another Loose Fur or a Tweedy solo album over a new Wilco one at the moment. IMO there's too many members in Wilco and the result can sometimes be very bland. Too many cooks etc... I've said this here before but I much prefer pre-Cline Wilco.
There were so many good songs leftover from the YHF demos, they don't seem to be that prolific anymore. SBS and WTA would have been much better EPs IMO.
There's nothing I'd like more than a return to form and I'm not looking for another YHF/AGIB/ST/BT but I'm not holding my breath. I'll still be buying their records but I don't expect to be blown away anymore. And that's the difference, I used to be really moved by their albums and now I just feel frustrated.
And I draw the line at christianity or any religion for that matter
I dunno if they did a Zoroastrianism album, I might be intrigued.
That said, I'm not sure I can buy that Wilco will ever make another album equal to their peak. Even AGIB to me is a step below the brilliance of the Jay Bennett era of Wilco, the melodies, the arrangements have gone downhill without Bennett's genius. The lyrics, well, that wouldn't matter if Jay was there or if he wasn't, but I feel like the music quality has gone down a bit without Jay.
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A lot of people agree with that sentiment. Unfortunately, those people are wrong.
Sky Blue Sky is a boring soft-rock meets jam band record. I'd much rather listen to a "pop" record than that.
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I think W(TA) was a vast improvement over Sky Blue Sky. Hopefully the next album will vastly improve over W(TA).
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My Top Ten:
01. Kanye West- My Dark Twisted Beautiful Fantasy
02. Arcade Fire- The Suburbs
03. Janelle Monae- ArchAndroid
04. The National- High Violet
05. Big Boi- Sir Lucious Leftfoot...
06. LCD Soundsystem- This is Happening
07. Joanna Newsom- Have One on Me
08. Beach House- Teen Dream
09. Sufjan Stevens- Age of ADZ
10. Bruce Springsteen- The Promise
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01. Summerteeth
02. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
03. A Ghost is Born
04. Being There
05. Wilco (The Album)
06. Sky Blue Sky
07. A.M.
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Modern? John Mayer.
But if I had to pick one artist that offended me the most in my whole life time, it would be Collective Soul. I still twitch whenever any of their songs come on the radio, and "Gel" is my least favorite song of all time.
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you and 10,000 other guys
she is pretty damn cute though, for sure
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Oh shit. Forgot Al was on Motown.
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Wrong. Try again.
While they weren't 100% rip offs like Led Zeppelin, they were hardly true innovators in the sense that The Velvet Underground were.
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David Crosby is the weak link in every band of which he has been a part.
He also has a weak septum.
I'd like to add that despite thinking they're the greatest band of all time compositionally by a mile, that I don't consider The Beatles particularly innovative. Basically everything they did had been done. They were more musical chameleons than true innovators.
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a fistful of blasphemy.
- The Ramones are easily the weakest band from the CBGBs scene. I'll take Talking Heads, Television, Patti, Blondie, The Voidoids etc over the Ramones any day.
- Bob Marley bores me to tears. His songs have no tension, which I consider a key element of composition.
- I vastly prefer the Stax sound to the Motown. Give me horns over frilly strings any day.
- Kurt Cobain is my favorite vocalist of all time and Nirvana is probably in my top 5 favorite bands. Deal with it.
- I think Are You Experienced is Hendrix's weakest album, and that Purple Haze is overrated. Electric Ladyland and Axis: Bold as Love are much more interesting to me.
- I think that Uncle Tupelo is for the most part pretty average.
- John Lennon (solo) is an overrated lyricist.
- For all the talk about them being "Punk Godfathers", I think The Who's biggest influence was on Boston, Cheap Trick, KISS and other arena rock, and that they were entirely too slick to be considered "punk" related.
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I've had this list for a while it's sort of a list of things I'd love to see come out on bonus discs or boxed sets:
Dream Wilco (The Boxed Set) or Bonus disc materials.
A: Individual tracks of interest.
01. "Let's Hear it For Rock"- Final mix. A.M. outtake.
02. "Can't Stand It"- Prior to arrangement by David Khane.
03. "Via Chicago"- All noise version that was spliced with the mellow version.
04. "Poor Places"- The Final version that O'Rourke, Tweedy and Kotche replaced at the 11th hour.
05. "Jesus, Etc"- Demo version. June, 2001
06. "Monkey Mess"- Studio Recording, circa 2001.
07. "Whispery Kisses"- Studio Recording, circa 2001.
08. "White Cat New Life"- Unknown song. Lyrics in The Wilco Book
09. "Obituary"- Unknown song. Lyrics in the Wilco Book.
10. "My Words"- Studio version
11. "Spiders (Kidsmoke)"- Studio version of early live arrangement
12. "Less Than You Think"- Studio version of early Live arrangement
13. "Let's Fight"- Studio version, circa SBS era.
B. General points of interest:
- Complete or relatively complete B-sides collection (with a focus on Wilco originals
over covers.)
- The raw mix of A.M. that was deemed uncommercial.
- The supposed 11 songs that were completed for Being There but didn't make the final cut.
- Any Mermaid Avenue sessions stuff, even if Jeff says there's nothing left.
- Any extra Summerteeth songs (This album is suspiciously low on bonus material.)
- The Jay Bennett mix of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot that was considered excessive and cluttered.
- A Ghost is Born was supposedly constructed with protools, then the band learned it,
and rerecorded it live. It'd be cool to hear these pro-tool constructions.
- More Stuff from Soma and the experimental Ghost sessions
- The Jim O'Rourke Mix of Sky Blue Sky that the band wasn't fond of.
- The extra 2-3 Sky Blue Sky outtakes.
- The demos prior to New Zealand for W(TA)
- Any interesting alternative versions that deviate heavily from the studio recordings
(Example, Punk Rock Passenger Side, the country Tweedy/ Bennett duo version of "I Got You")
- Just for the hell of it, any interesting Jeff Tweedy solo cover choices.
- Anything else I forgot.
obviously we wouldn't get ALL of this stuff...but this is my obsessive dream box.
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my recommendation would be start with A.M. and go up. The evolution from their first to fourth album is just amazing. From a very modest band on A.M., to a great American Band on Being There and Summerteeth to THE ONLY American Band on YHF.
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I didn't buy the bundle until Friday, so my physical copy won't come until later this week. Does anyone know when the mp3 album goes live, and how we go about downloading it?