Octoberquest 2006

[bjorn_skurj]

Jesus God!! What's next, the bubonic plague?

 

Pedro out eight months with torn rotator cuff

 

By ADAM RUBIN

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

 

WASHINGTON

[MrRain422]

Getting swept by the Royals to end the season is unacceptable.

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061001/ap_on_...DltBHNlYwM3MTY-

 

Is "I passed every test" really a valid defense? Interesting to see how this pans out.

[rwrkb]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061001/ap_on_...DltBHNlYwM3MTY-

 

Is "I passed every test" really a valid defense? Interesting to see how this pans out.

 

i'm not sure how much stock i put in it... i saw tejada play his whole career from the beginning in s. oregon playing for the a's rookie league team, and frankly his game and his physique have been the same since he was sixteen. he's just a solid ball player who works hard at his profession.

[rareair]

Is "I passed every test" really a valid defense? Interesting to see how this pans out.

 

no. neither is tejada's declaration that "I know I'm clean."

 

or not dignifying the question with a response.

 

if someone would just claim utter bullshit and file suit against grimsley, it would be a little convincing.

[MrRain422]

Can any one of them really file a lawsuit at this point though? They don't even know for sure that they were implicated. Grimsley has not named them publicly, and thus far they haven't faced any sort of legal problems because of Grimley's supposed statements to the federal investigators. It's just rumors floating around -- not enough for a lawsuit (I wouldn't think).

[rareair]

Can any one of them really file a lawsuit at this point though? They don't even know for sure that they were implicated. Grimsley has not named them publicly, and thus far they haven't faced any sort of legal problems because of Grimley's supposed statements to the federal investigators. It's just rumors floating around -- not enough for a lawsuit (I wouldn't think).

 

you can always file a lawsuit.

 

you may be right, but my understanding was that Grimsley's unredacted affidavit was the source of the story, which may provide a good faith basis for a suit for slander or libel or whatever.

 

if i were innocent, i would do it for p.r. reasons as much as anything. if grimsley will not confirm the affidavit under oath, you could always dismiss.

 

lawsuit is probably a waste of time, but after all the bullshit denials, there are not that many options for the truly innocent. which i am sure clemmens and his 47 year old killer splitter is.

Edited October 1, 2006 by rareair

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

Tigers have put in Kenny Rogers to pitch in extra innings. They really want that division.

[parisisstale]

They really want to avoid the Yankees in the first round.

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

Well, that, and have home field.

[Wilcology]

I'm cheering hard for the Royals.

 

GO TWINS!!!

[jenbobblehead]

the Royals have become my team away from home, since all my favorite red sox players seem to end up there. The Red Sox open their season in KC next and me and the old man are thinking of making the trek.

[bobbob1313]

MIAMI -- The season finale came and went Sunday afternoon for the Marlins, and there was still no definitive word on Joe Girardi's managerial future.

 

Following an emotional finish of a 3-2 win in 11 innings over the Phillies, the Marlins players celebrated on the field. Girardi got a big hug from third-base coach Bobby Meacham, and he was embraced by his players, including Dontrelle Willis.

 

Afterwards, Girardi expressed that he signed a three-year contract last October, and that he would like to see that through.

 

At 9 a.m. ET on Tuesday morning, Girardi will meet with Marlins management.

 

MLB.com received strong indications from sources on Sunday that Girardi will be dismissed at that time, and the team will turn quickly to Braves third-base coach Fredi Gonzalez as its first choice to be the next manager.

 

Gonzalez, who grew up in Miami, was Florida's third-base coach from 1999-2001, and he previously managed in the organization's Minor League system. He is regarded as the clear favorite to land the job, and a deal to secure him as manager could be finalized over the next few days.

 

Before Sunday's finale, Marlins general manager Larry Beinfest did not go into specifics about Girardi's future.

 

"I'm sure Joe and I will sit down," Beinfest said. "I think we'll wait till everything is over with, in fairness to the process for Joe and I to sit down."

 

Team owner Jeffrey Loria was not at the team's final homestand with the Reds and Phillies.

 

After Sunday's win, Girardi spoke to his team for a few minutes, congratulating them on an impressive season, which ended up at 78-84. The players applauded Girardi in an emotional exchange.

 

"It's about the players," Girardi said. "I'm still the manager of this club. It's a special group of kids. It's fun watching them."

 

Girardi said he wants to remain Florida's manager.

 

"I signed on for three years," he said. "I didn't sign on for one or two."

 

Monday is Yom Kippur and the Marlins are not expected to conduct any business that day.

 

"I'm going to observe the holiday Monday, and I know David Samson [team president] and Jeffrey are as well," Beinfest said. "I'm not sure there will be any business conducted on Monday."

 

While Girardi's future with the organization is in limbo, Beinfest praised the first-year manager and the development of the young squad.

 

"I think this team was prepared to play," Beinfest said. "They played hard every day. I think there was a winning attitude instilled here, and this team won a lot of games.

 

"I think Joe and his staff deserve a lot of credit for that. I would have to say, as far as the game managing, I thought it was good. Joe's a rookie and there can always be rookie mistakes. There can always be Monday-morning quarterbacking, but I think he did a good job."

 

A primary reason Girardi's status is in question is because he's had a rocky working relationship with the front office.

 

Asked how important it is for the general manager and manager to work together on major decisions, Beinfest said: "It's important."

 

Considering their inexperience and league-low $15 million payroll, the Marlins were perhaps the biggest surprise in the league in 2006. At one point, they were 11-31, but [the young club] made a dramatic turnaround, reaching .500 (68-68) on Sept. 3. On Sept. 11, they were 73-71 and two games out in the National League Wild Card standings.

 

Because of the dramatic turnaround, Girardi will be a strong candidate to win the NL Manager of the Year Award.

 

Many of the crowd of 36,768 at Sunday's game remained for all 11 innings, and afterwards they showed their appreciation for the team's performance and Girardi.

 

"I heard people say, 'Nice job,' and that's nice. I appreciate that," Girardi said. "The people in South Florida have been good to me. They've been very good to me."

 

Girardi has the support of many players. Willis says Girardi should be the Manager of the Year.

 

"He's here, as far as I'm concerned," Willis said. "Until I see something on the ticker, he's going to be our manager.

 

"I'm not going to get up and have no sleepless nights, and worry about that [if Girardi is dismissed]. I think he's done a great job for us. We responded to him, and that's it."

[Wilcology]

the Royals have become my team away from home.

 

Mine too, because I don't live in Minnesota anymore. I'm only about 200 miles south of KC so when the Twins play the Royals I get to hear them on the radio.

[paul137]

i hate the royals.

[cryptique]

I'll admit to a fair amount of Schadenfreude concerning the Tigers' choke job. Yeah, they still get to go to the postseason (and my White Sox don't), but to blow a division lead like theirs and lose it completely on the last day of the season after getting swept by the second-worst team in baseball (who probably would have been the worst if not for the sweep) has got to leave a bad taste in the mouths of Tigers fans.

 

Not as bad as what I'm dealing with (six games out in the end ... damn), but still bad, right?

[MrRain422]

It hurts. They still have a chance, but it certainly doesn't bode well for them that they're playing so poorly at this point in the season.

 

They might have robbed me of seeing a playoff game though, as my tickets are for the second home game, which won't happen if they get swept now that they don't have homefield advantage in the first round. D'oh.

[quarter23cd]

Dear Frank Robinson:

 

You're a class act and it was tough to watch your emotional last game with the Nat's yesterday. You deserve better than you've been treated recently. If you are thinking about your future and wondering what more you can do for the greater good of the baseball world, may I recommend that you start by coming home to Baltimore (and tossing Angelos out a window). Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

q23cd

[Twisted Acres]

Would love to see Robby back with the O's, quarter... it's where he belongs.

 

I'm a bundle of nerves now that it's officially the post-season.

 

Let's. Go. Mets.

[cryptique]

Let's. Go. Mets.

Anybody left on that pitching staff? Who's your "ace" now, Trachsel?

 

Hmmmm.

[tongue-tied lightning]

Trachsel actually left town for personal issues.

 

Mets will be fine. Duke, Glavine, Maine. Well, I think they'll be fine.

[MrRain422]

Not their ideal rotation, but that doesn't look all bad. Certainly good enough to win the NL.

 

Anyone think that the next manager of the Nats might be Dusty Baker?

[tongue-tied lightning]

Cubs

Phillies

Nats

Marlins

Giants

 

all need managers

[parisisstale]

Larry Bowa was just on WFAN calling Cano the best second baseman in the AL. Now that his defensive has drastically improved, he'll get no argument from me.

 

But I'm sure I'll get one from some of you.

[bobbob1313]

The Marlins do not need a manager. We have one already, and in my opinion (and many other marlins fans) it was the guy who should have been chosen last year.

 

(Fredi Gonzalez)