cryptique Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I never did manage to buy my own copies of the Sundazed releases, but I have CD-Rs of all of them except Grape Jam. Hopefully they'll resolve the legal issues and get the whole catalog out again sometime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I never did manage to buy my own copies of the Sundazed releases, but I have CD-Rs of all of them except Grape Jam. Hopefully they'll resolve the legal issues and get the whole catalog out again sometime soon. I thought this stuff just got reissued. Borders had all of them a few months ago, and I bought Wow. Are these already out of print? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I thought this stuff just got reissued. Borders had all of them a few months ago, and I bought Wow. Are these already out of print?See this earlier post by Analogman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 See this earlier post by Analogman. Well damn, maybe I bought Wow longer ago than I thought. Either that, or Borders had a stash sitting around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 If you dig around at Amazon, I think you can find Moby Grape/Wow/Grape Jam for 30-40 dollars now. I am glad I managed to buy all of them when they came out. You will also see the San Francisco Sound releases listed there, which is the company of the Moby Grape's old manager. Those releases are sourced from vinyl. And in the case of Wow/Grape Jam, is not even complete - that is, it is heavily edited to make it fit on one cd. I would not buy those. The first album was also out by way of the UK label Demon/Edsel Records. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 The first album was also out by way of the UK label Demon/Edsel Records.I've got that one. The sound's pretty good. I read somewhere that it was mono, but the CD I have is definitely stereo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I have it on vinyl - it was given to me by a guy who owned a record store here back in the 90s. I also have the cd, which I found in a record store in Pittsburgh last year. I also have this on vinyl: Great Grape. It was given to me many years ago by a guy who bought it when it came out. I would love to find original pressings of the albums. This is the one I have: Moby Grape ED137 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 i've got the album through getting: Vintage - The Very Best of Moby Grape. wouldn't say the sound is great, but i think that's probably got a lot to do with the recording of it not being so brilliant. seeing as how it's got the whole first album running in order i'd recommend anyone wanting the album to get that. that first album is so brilliant, though, that i'm let down by everything they did after it. edit: i've already said all this on page one. ok, i seem to no longer have a purpose - so i'm off to bury myself in the garden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Sundazed We have been working hard in the studio to finish mastering and sequencing our upcoming Moby Grape Live release - all vintage material, ca. '66 - '69... bet, it's crazy-good!!! Coming in April on CD and as a high-definition vinyl 2-LP set! We can only hope it does not get the axe due to some legal shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 God, I hope that comes out. And hopefully the sound will be a little crispier than for example the live Burritos cds that came out a couple of years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 God, I hope that comes out. And hopefully the sound will be a little crispier than for example the live Burritos cds that came out a couple of years ago. I have not looked around for any information yet - but I am curious about the source. I wonder if the tapes are KSAN-FM, or maybe even from Owsley? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 I found some information by way of a website called Elusive DiscAlso - there is a listing for it at Amazon.com now. The first official collection of concert recordings by the legendary San Francisco band at its blazing late-Sixties peak! Sundazed Music is proud to present a genuine psychedelic landmark: Live by Moby Grape, the first official collection of concert recordings by the legendary San Francisco band at its blazing late-Sixties peak. At that time, in rock's hippest city, there was not other band like the original Grape: Jerry Miller, Skip Spence, Bob Mosley, Peter Lewis and Don Stevenson. Their Columbia debut LP, Moby Grape, issued in June 1967, is still acclaimed as one of the greatest rock albums ever - a thrilling union of blues, soul, country, surf twang and da-glo garage rock, packed into original killer-pop songwriting. Even as extreme Columbia hype, devastating business hassles and Spence's tragic mental collapse threatened to blow up the band, the Grape continued to make immortal albums, including 1968's Wow and the magnificent Moby Grape '69. But the records told only half of the tale. Moby Grape, in their prime, were also one of the Bay Area's - and America's - best stage band, like the Beatles and Rolling Stones in one, with a breathtaking triple-guitar attack and stunning vocal harmonies, Live is the long-awaited proof. It features more than an hour of dynamite performances from soundboard and broadcast tapes, including tracks from the Avalon Ballroom in 1967 and the band's complete long-lost set at the Monterey Pop Festival, just a week after Moby Grape came out. There are live versions of the great rare Grape songs 'Rounder" and "Looper" and five tracks from a famous Dutch radio show featuring the hard-charging '69 lineup of Miller, Mosley, Lewis and Stevenson. And Live climaxes with the historic first-ever release of Spence's acid-guitar masterpiece "Dark Magic" - never recorded in the studio by the original band but presented here in an epic 17-minute performance at the Avalon, on New Year's Eve 1966. Moby Grape were the hottest band in town that night, with the whole rock & roll world ahead of them. And they sound like it. These four-decade-old recordings have been spectacularly mastered, in you-are-there fidelity, and this album comes with sumptuous packaging and rare photos in true Sundazed style, plus liner notes by Rolling Stone writer and Moby Grape authority David Fricke. 'Live' presents, at last, the untold part of Moby Grape's incredible story. It is San Francisco psychedelia at its zenith and the best historical rock release of the year.(Vinyl and CD) Avalon Ballroom, 19671. Ain't No Use2. Rounder3. Looper4. Bitter Wind5. Changes6. Indifference7. Someday Monterey Pop Festival, June 17, 19678. Introduction9. Indifference10. Mr. Blues11. Sitting By the Window12. Omaha Avalon Ballroom, 196813. Sweet Little Angel RAI Amsterdam, February 15, 196914. Murder In My Heart for the Judge15. I Am Not Willing16. Trucking Man17. Fall On You18. Omaha Avalon Ballroom, December 31, 196619. Dark Magic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 This is cool news... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I don't know much about Moby Grape. I am thinking of ordering next week's Moby Grape Live release. Any thoughts if this would be a good starting point with the Moby Grape catalog? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 I don't know much about Moby Grape. I am thinking of ordering next week's Moby Grape Live release. Any thoughts if this would be a good starting point with the Moby Grape catalog? Thanks. Moby Grape Wow/Grape Jam Moby Grape '69 Truly Fine Citizen The deal is - the first two are out of print. Sundazed re-issued the cds, but then they had to remove them, due to legal issues. I bet you can find used copies out there. Don't buy any of the cds unless they are the Sundazed re-issues, as the San Francisco Sound cds are edited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I don't know much about Moby Grape. I am thinking of ordering next week's Moby Grape Live release. Any thoughts if this would be a good starting point with the Moby Grape catalog? Thanks.I would start with the self-titled album. It's their best, and one of my favorite albums of all time. That said, the live release looks like it'll be a pretty good overview. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Yep, the one with "the finger." LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Thanks, all. Might as start with the new live one, since the first is OOP. Thanks A-Man for the below bit of info: Don't buy any of the cds unless they are the Sundazed re-issues, as the San Francisco Sound cds are edited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 I think the last time I looked, Moby Grape and Wow/Grape Jam were going for 30-60 bucks each. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I think the last time I looked, Moby Grape and Wow/Grape Jam were going for 30-60 bucks each. Yeah, even on the Sundazed site, WOW is $50. WOW indeed. The first one is sold out on the site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Yeah, even on the Sundazed site, WOW is $50. WOW indeed. The first one is sold out on the site. I did not know they were still selling them. I wonder how they are getting away with that? Maybe you can find them on Gemm or Ebay. Sundazed Music, along with the members of Moby Grape and their management, regret to announce that Sundazed has discontinued the sale and distribution of the first three Moby Grape titles, Moby Grape, Wow and Grape Jam. The two remaining albums, Moby Grape '69 and Truly Fine Citizen, will continue to be available from Sundazed.These titles were manufactured under license for Sundazed by Sony BMG Music Entertainment. It was Sony BMG Music Entertainment's decision to cease production of the first three titles, as a result of a longstanding and ongoing dispute over control of the Moby Grape album catalogue between Sony BMG Music Entertainment and an outside party. As Moby Grape's fans are well aware, the band's career has long been dogged by business disputes far beyond the musicians' control. These issues have contributed to keeping the band's music out of print for lengthy periods—a situation that Sundazed Music had hoped to redress with its exhaustive Moby Grape reissue series. Sony BMG's decision comes as a surprise to Moby Grape and Sundazed, to say the least. Both band and label had invested considerable time, energy and attention into reissuing these albums with the respect and loving care that they have always deserved, and were excited to have the opportunity to make this music available once again to old and new fans.We at Sundazed are disappointed to be unable to continue to distribute the first three Moby Grape titles, but we remain honored to have Moby Grape '69 and Truly Fine Citizen as part of the Sundazed catalogue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Grape Jam is still on their page, too. Actually Jam and WOW are $59.98. Maybe the deal was sell the ones you have in stock at an enormous price so all the lawyers/companies can get their cut. Who knows. Anyway buying the new live release and the new 89 Dead release from Amazon (my apologies to Dead.net). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Finding those albums on vinyl isn't all that hard and much cheaper....(of course they may be a bit beat from being played at crazy parties in the 60s....) LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Besides the Edsel version of the first album, and the copy of Great Grape I have, I have still never seen any of the albums anywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I know I have the first album and Grape Jam. Not sure about Wow. One of them has a cut that you have to play at 78 RPMs. I saw a copy of the first album without the finger at the CHIRP record sale this weekend. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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