tongue-tied lightning Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 has this story been posted ? http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 "In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative press than if he would've killed a human being," White said. "The way he is being persecuted, he wouldn't have been persecuted that much had he killed somebody."How would he be treated if he had participated in or ordered/condoned the killing of eight people? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 How would he be treated if he had participated in or ordered/condoned the killing of eight people? If the glove don't fit, ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 White should talk to OJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_willy Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print...strong_sales_of get em while they're hot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Reminds me of when I went as O.J. to the fraternity halloween party in 1995. I skipped the blackface, as I did not want to be murdered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Did you carry around an airline turnstile all night? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Blue jumpsuit w/prison numbers (#0000032), black watchcap, a pair of youth-sized leather gloves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Did bobblehead go as Marcia Clark? Huh, I actually thought of her before Nicole. Wild. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 "I think it's tough," Marbury said, according to Albany TV station Capital News 9. "I think, you know, we don't say anything about people who shoot deer or shoot other animals. You know, from what I hear, dogfighting is a sport. It's just behind closed doors." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Did bobblehead go as Marcia Clark? Huh, I actually thought of her before Nicole. Wild.That party occurred approximately nine years before I met my wife. I went with my then-future girfriend's sister, who dressed as a flapper, because she didn't have as much imagination as I did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 not googling a pic of Paris Hilton at work.jpg[ /img] That's hot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basil II Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 BK.........thanks so much for that. -Robert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 No Satchel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Agkc...p&type=lgns see, all you guys were much to hard on Mikey. He didn't kill no dawgs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/24/michael.vick/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_willy Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 http://sporting-goods.search.ebay.com/mich...4QQsacatZ137006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Hapablap Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2990157 http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/070824...lvickletter.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SlowBurn68 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 "You have engaged in conduct detrimental to the welfare of the NFL and have violated the league's personal conduct policy," Goodell told Vick in a letter after meeting in New York with Falcons president and general manager Rich McKay. Goodell freed the Falcons to "assert any claims or remedies" to recover $22 million of Vick's signing bonus from the 10-year, $130 million contract he signed in 2004. http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=F...mp;confirm=true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 i heard a guy today saying "so he killed a few dogs - big deal. they were his dogs, he paid for them." so very sad. the NFL did the right thing here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Hapablap Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=22399 Vick's story sick, but it's far from only oneBy Barry Rozner | Daily Herald Columnist Published: 8/22/2007 12:23 AM The Michael Vick story represents one of the most depraved and deplorable moments in sports history. If you're not completely sickened yet, watch the current edition of HBO's "Real Sports,'' which spotlights the horrifying world of dog fighting. And, yes, for the record, I love dogs. But I love women and children, too, and have to admit to being stunned by the outrage over Vick's crimes in relation to the lack of protest over domestic violence by athletes. Especially, when an abusive husband or boyfriend is unlikely to spend much -- if any -- time in jail, while Vick is thought to be going away for at least a year. "What Michael Vick did is horrible, and I can't imagine anyone having any reaction other than that,'' said Leigh Goodmark, an associate professor at the University of Baltimore School of Law, and director of its Family Law Clinic. "I'm not suggesting we should care more about women than dogs or equate the two in any way, but it oversimplifies to say women have free will and dogs don't. "The assumption that a battered woman can get up and leave with no ramifications is ridiculous. It flies in the face of everything we know about battered women.'' Meanwhile, the incidents in sports pile up by the dozens each year, and many pass quietly after an initial reaction. The Rockies' Bobby Chouinard, for example, held a loaded gun to his wife's head and served a one-year sentence -- but in three-month increments during off-seasons. Phillies pitcher Brett Myers allegedly dragged his wife around by the hair on a Boston street in front of witnesses. He still pitched the next day at Fenway Park, and was later granted a paid leave of absence. The Buccaneers' Michael Pittman was indicted three years ago on two counts of aggravated assault for intentionally ramming his Hummer into a car carrying his wife and 2-year-old son. It was the fourth time Pittman had been arrested on domestic-abuse charges, but his wife, Melissa, told police there were 30 or 40 others that she never reported. Pittman got a three-game suspension. There have been calls for Vick to be suspended for life. "Penalties for animal abuse are still greater than penalties for domestic violence in some states,'' Goodmark said. "The Vick story has been the biggest in sports for two months, and I understand he's a big star, but (Carolina's) Rae Carruth was found guilty of conspiring to murder his pregnant girlfriend (in 2001), and after that you never heard much about it, or the need for more domestic-violence prevention in sports.'' According to endabuse.org, citing statistics from, among other sources, the U.S. Department of Justice, from 1 million to 3 million women per year are physically abused in the United States; on average, more than three women are murdered by husbands or boyfriends in this country every day; and homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women. "The most dangerous moment in her life is when a woman leaves an abusive relationship,'' Goodmark said. "Physical abuse is part of the system of control, and when she says she's leaving, she's saying, 'You don't control me anymore.' That's the time he intensifies the abuse to ensure he doesn't lose control. "The reality is many women do leave and many are abused or killed.'' It has been suggested that wives of rich athletes often don't press charges or leave their husbands because they don't want to give up the good life. "There are a lot of reasons they don't leave, be it religious, housing, economics or children,'' Goodmark said. "Killing children is one of the ultimate expressions of hatred and control. He takes away the thing that matters more to her than anything else. "The worst are the ones who kill the kids and leave the mom alive so that it hurts even more. Don't think that some of these women who don't leave haven't been told that if they leave, the husband or boyfriend will kill the children. "It's just sad that with everything we know, someone would say that these women deserve what they get for staying.'' When pro wrestler Chris Benoit murdered his wife and strangled his 7-year-old son before killing himself, nearly every story was about how steroids played a part in the violence. There was no outrage over a murdered mom, over the death of an innocent child. And a national survey of more than 6,000 American families found that 50 percent of men who frequently assaulted their wives also frequently abused their children. The book "Pros and Cons: The Criminals Who Play in the NFL'' reported the most prevalent crime among NFL players was domestic violence. "As a sports fan, and as an advocate for battered women,'' Goodmark said, "it's hard to find a team to root for.'' This is in no way meant to diminish Vick's crime, but it seems fair to wonder why there's a conspicuous lack of outrage when we hear about athletes torturing women. And whether a battered woman today matters less than a dog. brozner@dailyherald.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 When pro wrestler Chris Benoit murdered his wife and strangled his 7-year-old son before killing himself, nearly every story was about how steroids played a part in the violence. There was no outrage over a murdered mom, over the death of an innocent child. I think that bolded part is absolutely false... But in general, I can agree with the sentiment of the article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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