MattZ Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 broken gene? Omar Minaya says Happy Birthday! It was RHETORICAL!!! Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I guess Milledge was a huge head ache to the front office.they never gave him a chance. some players(Wagner) never took to the kid either Link to post Share on other sites
boywiththorninside Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Background check on Church: not good "The Washington Nationals suspended a volunteer chaplain and distributed an apology from outfielder Ryan Church yesterday, two days after Church was quoted in a front-page Post article as suggesting that Jews are headed for eternal damnation." Yikes. New York City might not be the best fit. Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Acres Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Now the Nationals will trade Milledge to the A's for Blanton. Just you watch. JUST YOU WATCH!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
P Dub Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 The Cardinals signed Izturis to replace Eckstein...great! Will Tony now bat the pitcher 7th ahead of Kennedy and Izturis? Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Both Schneider and Church bat left, which is something the Mets need. Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 so far the a's have done nothing, and it's not comforting me Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I think they are waiting to see what they can get for Haren and/or Blanton. Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I think they are waiting to see what they can get for Haren and/or Blanton. i'm not sure how i feel about that either. Link to post Share on other sites
the_fliz1 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Yay, Kenny Rogers is back as a Tiger. That means he can be a year older and still get paid to suck. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 WFAN: Mets trade Lastings Milledge to Nationals for Brian Schneider This may be the worst trade of the offseason, barring the Marlins or Twins trading Cabrera or Santana for Melky and a tube of toothpaste. I'm almost positive they could've called the Marlins today and offered Willis for him and one other prospect and they might've been able to do so. Both Schneider and Church bat left, which is something the Mets need. They also both suck. Link to post Share on other sites
P Dub Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I don't know the players the Nat's gave up but hasn't Lastings been a "top prospect" for several years now? Is it likely that he'll put up decent numbers for years to come? Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 hasn't Lastings been a "top prospect" for several years now? Is it likely that he'll put up decent numbers for years to come?That's not quite the way it works in baseball. Yes, he has been a highly rated prospect for a long time. He's only 22, though. In general, players don't reach their peak till ~28. He should improve quite a bit between now and then. There's not much to suggest that Milledge's ceiling is lower than advertised. Link to post Share on other sites
P Dub Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I didn't know he was only 22...I guess I first heard about him when he was like 18 or something. If the guys they got aren't that good, why did the Mets not hold on to him for a potential bigger trade? Seems weird to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Well, personality conflicts apparently (?) and Ryan Church isn't a bad player. Not sure how his CF defense is, but his offensive production is good for a centerfielder and meh for a corner outfielder. I mean, his OPS is similar to Aaron Rowand's or Torii Hunter's--who are both going to make a billion dollars or so. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Brian Schneider does not suck. He's not great, but he's definately an above average defensive catcher. And yeah, Milledge's name has been around forever, but that's just because he was a hot prospect back in high school. He still has plenty of time to pan out. Kenny Rogers...meh. I mean, he's obviously not very good anymore. He's over the hill, and at this point in his career he's going to be hurt a lot. But he's not awful, and I guess it can't hurt to have him around. If he's the #5 starter this year, I'm totally okay with that. More likely, though, is that he'll be injured much of the year and basically act as a back-up pitching coach to all the young talent. The rotation to start the year will probably be Bondo/Verlander/Rogers/Robertson (assuming they don't cut him)/Miller. After Rogers gets hurt, they'll bring in Virgil Vasquez or Jordan Tata, or make a trade. It's a pretty solid rotation though, and it will be incredible in 2-3 years once Miller comes into his own. Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 am i the only one who thinks it would be stupid for the red sox to give up jacoby ellsbury for santana? Link to post Share on other sites
Wilcology Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 As a Twins fan, I think it would be ill-conceived if Santana goes for only Jacoby Ellsbury. The Red Sox have allegedly made it clear that it's Santana for Ellsbury or Jon Lester, not both of them. I think the smart deal for us to make is Santana to the Yankees for Phil Hughes and Melky Cabrera. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Except Melky sucks. The Twins could get Ellsbury and Lester. I have no doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 i think ellsbury is too electric a player to give up. he's got a bright, bright future. unless he wants to go play for the a's, i think the sox would be smart to keep him Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 i think ellsbury is too electric a player to give up. he's got a bright, bright future. unless he wants to go play for the a's, i think the sox would be smart to keep himOf course the Sox would like to keep Ellsbury, but they'd also like to attain another Cy Young caliber pitcher. I believe BOS would be prepared to deal either Bucholz or Lester, as well. I think a rotation with Schilling, Beckett, and Santana in it would obviously bode well for BOS and scare the shit out of division rivals, notably the NYY whom they face 18-19 times per season. Santana is only 28 years old, too. He's got the potential for a continued bright future, as well. A lefty of his import and skill doesn't come along all that often. I don't think BOS should toss anyone at MIN to acquire him, but playing a cat-and-mouse escalation game with the NYY is worth a shot. I think Ellsbury would have to be in the mix, at this point. Santana has also said he will not waive his no-trade clause once the season begins. Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 so, we agree, unless boston wants to give him to oakland he should stay put Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 They got rid of Hanley Ramirez to get Beckett, and he's better than Ellsbury (and Santana is better than Beckett). Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 i think ellsbury is too electric a player to give up. he's got a bright, bright future. unless he wants to go play for the a's, i think the sox would be smart to keep himSantana is worth trading a young, promising-yet-unproven centerfielder for. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 They got rid of Hanley Ramirez to get Beckett, and he's better than Ellsbury (and Santana is better than Beckett). In the Sox defense, Hanley's prospect star had dimmed quite a bit following some lackluster MiLB seasons. Link to post Share on other sites
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