bobbob1313 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 One's a cartoon, the other is based on a comic book, or something. I prefer romantic comedies. I'm assuming you were just responding for the sake of responding without actually being serious here, but judging movies based on genres is fucking retarded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I'm assuming you were just responding for the sake of responding without actually being serious here, but judging movies based on genres is fucking retarded.If you assumed that, then why the expletive? Calm down. Anyway, I don't see where I actually judged any movies. I just said I'm not interested in seeing a fucking cartoon or a comic book movie. What's wrong with that? Other people are excited about these and I can respect that. I'll probably get around to seeing The Dark Knight, but most likely on DVD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 How do you sleep with yourself at night? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 lube, dude. it helps ward off the chaffing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 How do you sleep with yourself at night? It's, "How do you look at yourself in the mirror?" Get it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 SPOILERS!This movie was flawless. By far the best super hero movie I've ever seen. Heath Ledger and Christian Bale was/is two of the best actors of our times. I agree fully with what was said before, Ledger made an unbelievable character in an unbelievable plot seem plausible. The score was terrific, the two note hum used for The Joker was great, I wish I thought of that during my score writing days in school. I'm glad they had the balls to kill off Rachel Dawes, instead of making it a perfect happy ending. I know they're going to do a third movie but I wish they wouldn't, since I sincerely doubt they'd be able to top this film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 ah yes, because as everyone knows, there's just a certain age in which everyone should stop having fun or being goofy/nerdy and only act prim and proper 24/7 I knew I could get someone to back me up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Quote> the two note hum used for The Joker Yes, yes, I especially liked that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 As the theater was packed when we went yesterday, I just watched it online. There was certainly some great acting going on - I must say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I knew I could get someone to back me up You can do whatever you want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 You can do whatever you want. Are you advocating empowerment or anarchy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Unless this is some sort of contrarian experiment, I don't see why you would actively avoid and degrade the two most critically acclaimed movies of the year. Seems odd. what critics are we talking about here? i've not seen the film yet, so i can't exactly say if it's good or not, but i think the prospect that it and wall-e really are the 2 best films of the year makes me a little sad inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 So just saw this and I thought it was good. I heard comparisons to Heat (which i can see) and Godfather II (which I can't). I think it was great that it attempted to explore deeper and darker themes than is typical in this sort of movie. Also that it largely avoided the heavy-handed dialog of the first one. I liked Batman Begins quite a bit but that dialog killed me. That said, these are the only comic book movies I've ever liked. I actually wish they would have gone further with it though. The themes were so overt. A boat of criminals and boat of innocent civilians? Come on! We get it, give us more credit than that. I also would have liked to see more character development. I think you could have lost the whole Hong Kong scene and certainly the Scarecrow scene and devoted more time to developing Harvey Dent's character. Maybe they thought they needed the action to keep the mainstream audiences because it is such a dark film. I just felt like they went 75% of the way there and for that I give 3/4 stars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 A boat of criminals and boat of innocent civilians? Come on! We get it, give us more credit than that. criminals? they weren't convicted of anything yet Dark Knight is the best batman movie. if the never-ending money-piling movie franchise were to ever call it a day, now would be the time, they won't top this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 criminals? they weren't convicted of anything yet Okay maybe I missed something, but was one ferry NOT filled with prisoners!?! That's the whole (painfully obvious) point, there's even goodness in the most wretched criminals (the most wretched looking throws the detonator out the window) contrary to what the Joker thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Okay maybe I missed something, but was one ferry NOT filled with prisoners!?! That's the whole (painfully obvious point), there's even goodness in the most wretched criminals (the most wretched looking throws the detonator out the window) contrary to what the Joker thought. second-guessing myself now, but i thought they were moving the loads of criminals they arrested who were awaiting trial. i was playing devil's advocate for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Pretty good flick! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Are you advocating empowerment or anarchy?I'm advocating Brad Goodman's philosophy.If you would like to learn more, you may come to the Do As You Feel Festival in four months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 So just saw this and I thought it was good. I heard comparisons to Heat (which i can see) and Godfather II (which I can't). I think it was great that it attempted to explore deeper and darker themes than is typical in this sort of movie. Also that it largely avoided the heavy-handed dialog of the first one. I liked Batman Begins quite a bit but that dialog killed me. That said, these are the only comic book movies I've ever liked. I actually wish they would have gone further with it though. The themes were so overt. A boat of criminals and boat of innocent civilians? Come on! We get it, give us more credit than that. I also would have liked to see more character development. I think you could have lost the whole Hong Kong scene and certainly the Scarecrow scene and devoted more time to developing Harvey Dent's character. Maybe they thought they needed the action to keep the mainstream audiences because it is such a dark film. I just felt like they went 75% of the way there and for that I give 3/4 stars.Here us a review that sums up some of what I mean above. I warn you that it is not a kind review (he definitely didn't like it, whereas I did) and it has many major spoilers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Here us a review that sums up some of what I mean above. I warn you that it is not a kind review (he definitely didn't like it, whereas I did) and it has many major spoilers.That was a good read. Mostly because he agree with what I was talking about earlier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 That was a good read. Mostly because he agree with what I was talking about earlier.Yeah, from everything I was hearing I was expecting the movie to go deeper. I don't think you can raise issues such as terrorism, response to terrorism, domestic surveillance in the way they did without giving it more depth. Not to mention explore the ideas of what makes individuals good or bad without giving the characters more depth. It wanted to be something more, but as I said earlier it seemed reluctant to go all the way there and therefore many of the themes didn't carry weight for me. Instead, it was just a good, entertaining comic book movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 The scene with The Joker dressed up as a nurse was great - along with the jail scenes - probably my favorite parts of the film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
giraffo Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 That was a good read. Mostly because he agree with what I was talking about earlier.this is the same type of crap I was talking about in the Dr. Dog thread- again I don't mind snobbery or pretentiousness, but I hate when reviewers go at length to throw punches. It's a god damn Batman movie, not a Nietchzeian exposition on the psychology of the high and lows of society. Using the term overrated when going at lengths to describe how Alan Moore "does The Joker better" is the biggest contradiction of the entire thing-- most comic writers (ESPECIALLY Alan Moore) are overrated in their own right. Expecting some sort of freak of nature-- an entertaining pop culture movie displaying psychological studies and philosophical concerns-- in a PG-13 Batman movie will set you up to write one of those inane, immature-yet-nuanced reviews. Pop culture is lucky to get what it got out of this movie. It could have been much, much, worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Liked, not loved. Kinda had the same problem Burton's had - the villain was more interesting than the hero. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Here us a review that sums up some of what I mean above. I warn you that it is not a kind review (he definitely didn't like it, whereas I did) and it has many major spoilers.89 words into the review, and I can already tell by the writing style that not only does the reviewer not understand the movie, but that the reviewer towers above all by objectifying all issues. There are unnecessary sentences in that review that doesn't even benefit his/her argument. Starting from the small pissants to the over-generalization of everything, the writer does not want to stick with a topic or a point really. There's nit-picking about the opinions made, not the presentation. This isn't a review; it's a rant. Whoever is maintaining that magazine should desperately search for an editor, or a new one. Also, "reverse-racism trick"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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