Jump to content

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 1k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

If I were Omar Minaya, I would be seriously tempted to, if Duaner Sanchez holds up, slip Heilman into the rotation.

Link to post
Share on other sites
If I were Omar Minaya, I would be seriously tempted to, if Duaner Sanchez holds up, slip Heilman into the rotation.

 

I think it's too late to put Heilman back in the rotation. That team ruined his career, in my opinion. He should've been starting from day one.

 

What's a good starter make? What's a good setup man make? Doesn't the first make more because they're in higher demand?

 

I agree with you, but not your reasoning here. You have your best pitchers start if they have the arm strength, and let the bullpen figure itself out.

Link to post
Share on other sites
I think it's too late to put Heilman back in the rotation. That team ruined his career, in my opinion. He should've been starting from day one.

He was, and did not really set the world on fire as a starter.

Link to post
Share on other sites

To me it's pretty simple. You want your best pitchers pitching as many innings as possible without injuring them (or fatiguing them to the point that they're not longer good). If a pitcher is awesome, make him a starter and use him for 200 innings. If he's not quite that good, use him as one of your main bullpen guys for 60 or 80 innings. If he sucks, then you stick him in the back end of the bullpen. Yeah, you want some guys in your bullpen who are going to not give up leads, but the ability to pitch one good inning every 2 days is not as helpful to your team as the ability to pitch 6-8 every 5.

Link to post
Share on other sites
To me it's pretty simple. You want your best pitchers pitching as many innings as possible without injuring them (or fatiguing them to the point that they're not longer good). If a pitcher is awesome, make him a starter and use him for 200 innings. If he's not quite that good, use him as one of your main bullpen guys for 60 or 80 innings. If he sucks, then you stick him in the back end of the bullpen. Yeah, you want some guys in your bullpen who are going to not give up leads, but the ability to pitch one good inning every 2 days is not as helpful to your team as the ability to pitch 6-8 every 5.

Complicating that a bit is the number of pitches a guy has. If he has only one or two, it's gonna be rough for him facing guys more than once a game.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Complicating that a bit is the number of pitches a guy has. If he has only one or two, it's gonna be rough for him facing guys more than once a game.

 

That's absolutely true. But I think that is kind of accounted for in considering how good he is. Joba throws 4 pitches, so he sounds like a good candidate to start.

Link to post
Share on other sites
To me it's pretty simple. You want your best pitchers pitching as many innings as possible without injuring them (or fatiguing them to the point that they're not longer good). If a pitcher is awesome, make him a starter and use him for 200 innings. If he's not quite that good, use him as one of your main bullpen guys for 60 or 80 innings. If he sucks, then you stick him in the back end of the bullpen. Yeah, you want some guys in your bullpen who are going to not give up leads, but the ability to pitch one good inning every 2 days is not as helpful to your team as the ability to pitch 6-8 every 5.

 

I agree with everything you said, but wanted to highlight what I bolded. At this point of the year, yanking Joba from the pen and putting him in the rotation creates too much injury risk. I have to admit that I dont really understand why, but most players (current and former) say that it's an entirely different preparation process for pitchers and making a change like this midseason is incredibly risky.

 

In the old days, I threw 14 innings of stickball every single day in the summer. And I was the best pitcher in the hood. :monkey

Link to post
Share on other sites

I understand easing younger guys into heavier workloads, but I'm not sure why it would be such a big deal to change him to the rotation at this point. It's only a couple weeks into the season, and they can start him off on low pitch counts at first.

Link to post
Share on other sites
I understand easing younger guys into heavier workloads, but I'm not sure why it would be such a big deal to change him to the rotation at this point. It's only a couple weeks into the season, and they can start him off on low pitch counts at first.

 

Well, in fairness, you'd have to admit that the stamina to pitch 6-7 innings is incredibly different than 1. As is the recovery time. So, I could understand why just going from the setup role to the rotation could cause problems. I would think that an offseason of strengthening and a spring training of rotation-type work could solve that issue, though.

Link to post
Share on other sites

It should have started in spring training - I would keep him all this year in the pen, and think of him for the rotation in 2009.

It would be kind of cool if they made him into a Gossage-esque two-or-more-inning closer.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...