Winston Legthigh Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 As a lifelong Lions fan who is now living in Cheesehead territory, (formerly in Vi-queens territory), I'm praying for a rare Lions win and an opportunity to facetiously gloat on Monday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3587018 The job of Oakland Raiders coach Lane Kiffin has come under fire again from the one person that matters, according to the San Jose Mercury News. In late January, ESPN Senior NFL Analyst Chris Mortensen reported that Raiders owner Al Davis had drawn up a resignation letter for Kiffin a week into the year and asked the coach to quit. Now, Davis is preparing to fire Kiffin as soon as Monday, regardless of how the visiting Raiders perform Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs, the Mercury News has reported, citing several front-office sources. "You have to look at the history. History is what it is, that he doesn't keep people very long," Kiffin said Wednesday of Davis, two days after the Raiders lost their season opener 41-14 to the Denver Broncos in Oakland. "He's not the guy I hired," Davis said in mid-August, according to the report in the Bay Area newspaper. Speculation about Kiffin's status began in early January after reports surfaced following the season that he wanted to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. The Raiders dismissed those reports and announced that Ryan was staying on as coordinator. Kiffin was reportedly upset that he didn't have control of his coaching staff, leading Davis to ask for his resignation. If Kiffin were to resign, he would not be paid for the remaining two years of his contract. "We don't have a general manager; everything goes through the owner," Kiffin said Wednesday. "That sets up a difficult situation at times. Knowing who the owner is, you know from Day 1 there's no job security." Kiffin, 33, became the youngest man to coach a game in the NFL since Harland Svare took over the Los Angeles Rams as a 31-year old in 1962. The Raiders went 4-12 in his first season in Oakland, doubling the team's win total from the previous year and showing signs of improvement in many areas. But it marked the fifth straight year that Oakland has lost at least 10 games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Raiders owner Al DavisThis guy is the problem. Total moron. No class, no winning attitude. The Raiders will be a lousy franchise until he is out of the picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 5 freakin' field goals, up 15-0 over Indy and we still lose 18-15. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 What a crazy assed ending to the DEN/SD game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I agree to a large extent. Obama, if elected, will be a moderate Democrat and likely not any sort of change we can believe in. But you know what? I'll stand in place for 4 (8?) years gladly if it means not catapulting back to the 17th century courtesy of Caribou Barbie and McCain. I'll probably be legally allowed to marry before I die regardless of who's elected this November, but I'm confident it'll happen sooner with an Obama/Biden administration than it will on a McCain/Palin ticket. Damn, the Chargers got screwed. Jay Cutler wouldn't have been able to show his face in Denver if Ed Hochuli had not blown the call... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 a bit ugly, but I'll take it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Damn, the Chargers got screwed. Jay Cutler wouldn't have been able to show his face in Denver if Ed Hochuli had not blown the call... Royaly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 a bit ugly, but I'll take it.Ugly, indeed. I'm happy for you man, but I just could not watch the entire game (especially after watching both the Colts and Pats games). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 a bit ugly, but I'll take it. Yeah, the weather kind of limited the game plan a bit, but the defense looked very strong. I also finally saw the Burbs this weekend, that movie is so awesome. Bruce Dern is amazing: "One thing about these old guys - they never leave the house without their hair." Thread hijack over-- The Pats still look like a 11-12 win team to me, the Bills look like they might be this year's breakthrough team, the Vikings could be the best team in the NFC if they had even an average quarterback, Tavaris Jackson is a poor man's Kordell Stewart. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Yeah, the weather kind of limited the game plan a bit, but the defense looked very strong. I also finally saw the Burbs this weekend, that movie is so awesome. Bruce Dern is amazing: "One thing about these old guys - they never leave the house without their hair." Thread hijack over-- The Pats still look like a 11-12 win team to me, the Bills look like they might be this year's breakthrough team, the Vikings could be the best team in the NFC if they had even an average quarterback, Tavaris Jackson is a poor man's Kordell Stewart. --Mike from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: CLEVELAND -- Some things never change. Autumn follows summer, the Allegheny River flows into the Ohio, and the Browns lose to the Steelers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Damn, the Chargers got screwed. Jay Cutler wouldn't have been able to show his face in Denver if Ed Hochuli had not blown the call...Cutler ends up looking good but he really blew that game. I was surprised to see Shanahan go for 2 near the end. Ballsy move. Stupid move? Had that play gone sideways he'd have been abused in the press. Now he too looks good. What a fickle scenario. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Cutler ends up looking good but he really blew that game.Exactly. Their last two drives to the red zone ended with an interception in the end zone and (well, it didn't end here but by all rights it should have) a lost fumble from the two yard line. That play gets called correctly, and Cutler's mayor of Goat City. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I can't help it ... I just love seeing the Lions self-destruct like they did in the last seven minutes of the fourth quarter. I have no love for John Kitna, so I can't say I feel too sorry for him today. (Sorry, Lions fans.) My schadenfreude was considerably tempered, however, by how the Bears pissed away their lead yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Can someone please summarize the Denver ending for me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Can someone please summarize the Denver ending for me?Cutler fumbled. Ref ruled it was an incomplete pass. They score a TD. They successfully go for 2. They win by 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Cutler fumbled. Ref ruled it was an incomplete pass. They score a TD. They successfully go for 2. They win by 1.Cutler lost the ball while bringing his arm up to throw (i.e., he tossed the ball straight up in the air long before his arm started moving forward). San Diego recovered the ball and was tackled out of bounds. Ueber-Ref Ed Hochuli blew the play dead, negating the recovery and giving the ball to Denver on the ten. He admitted to having blown the call on the PA, but by rule couldn't reverse his call. Cutler handed the ball off, then threw to Royal in the end zone. They went for two, and Cutler hit Royal again. Game over 24 seconds later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Cutler lost the ball while bringing his arm up to throw (i.e., he tossed the ball straight up in the air long before his arm started moving forward). San Diego recovered the ball and was tackled out of bounds. Ueber-Ref Ed Hochuli blew the play dead, negating the recovery and giving the ball to Denver on the ten. He admitted to having blown the call on the PA, but by rule couldn't reverse his call. Cutler handed the ball off, then threw to Royal in the end zone. They went for two, and Cutler hit Royal again. Game over 24 seconds later.I was in the Caesar's Palace sports book as this went down. It was surreal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IATTBYB Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 As a Lions fan, the only thing I have to say is: FIRE MILLEN & CUT KITNA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 As a Lions fan, the only thing I have to say is: FIRE MILLEN & CUT KITNASeriously. Why would you not bench Kitna and give Stanton or Orlovksy a look?It's hard to believe that this is the worst of all the Millen Lions teams right now. Bring back Monty Clark! Hire Ken Holland! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Why would you not bench Kitna and give Stanton or Orlovksy a look?I think you answered your own question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I think you answered your own question.I usually do. I'm just saying... If you're going to lose - why do it with a QB who has a history of mediocrity - why not see what your other untested guys can do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I'm just saying... If you're going to lose - why do it with a QB who has a history of mediocrity - why not see what your other untested guys can do?You're talking to a Bears fan here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 You're talking to a Bears fan here.Eesh. What ever happened to Dennis McKinnon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Eesh. What ever happened to Dennis McKinnon?I would take him now. Right now. 50 years old or whatever. A receiver that can get open. That would be nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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