Winston Legthigh Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 what?How many non-English speaking bands are in the Rock-n-roll HOF? How many are on the ballot (Does Kraftwerk even have lyrics?) How many non-English speaking bands could you even make an argument for? Scorpions? Does that even count? Even they sing in English. Who are you going to vote in, Taco? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 there are tons of great bands from Germany, Japan and Scandinavia who i don't ever expect to see in the HoF, esp if someone like the Smiths can't get in. so fuck those guys.i took your statement as answering the question of What Is Rock and Roll? It's an attitude (and language) mixed with music. Not many non-English speaking bands that merit consideration.which is a ridiculous answer, if you think rock music needs to be sung in English.and this board is seriously in need of a Kraftwerk primer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Os Mutantes is a non-English speaking band that should be in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Check for yourself - no non-english speaking bands have ever been inducted. https://www.rockhall.com/inductees ABBA doesn't count - all their songs were English. Linda Ronstadt gets a tiny bit of credit for releasing Canciones de mi Padre (excellent album - check it out) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 which is a ridiculous answer, if you think rock music needs to be sung in English. Well it DOES need to be, if you want to get into the HOF. I'm a proponent of Stereolab myself, but what do I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He actually has a bunch of great tunes, but the real reason he's in the HoF is because he was present for the most famous and tragic event in rock and roll history.Let's be honest on the tunes, though: most people know "La Bamba" and that's it. And yes about the plane wreck. Point on both being: the R&R HOF has an incredibly broad view of what merits acceptance. Jane's Addiction, just because they don't have a ton of material, are just as worthy of acceptance (or "deseve it"-ness) as a Richie Valens or an Abba or a Bobby Darin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 With Valens I personally think that had he not died or if he had not died with Buddy Holly he would have been a little remembered one hit wonder. I just don't see enough that makes me believe he would have had a sustainable career. Of course if Mr Rolling Stone liked Valens he would put him in the hall anyway. That's just pure speculation and pure opinion on my part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Check for yourself - no non-english speaking bands have ever been inducted. https://www.rockhall.com/inductees ABBA doesn't count - all their songs were English. Linda Ronstadt gets a tiny bit of credit for releasing Canciones de mi Padre (excellent album - check it out)i am not doubting you. all that says is that the RnRHoF is as big a steaming coil as we all figured it was. but hey, Can isn't recognized but Green Day is. yeah, that makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dagwave Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 i want to support the of the concept of the rock and roll HOF, yet each and every year, my faith erodes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I have autobahn from kraftwerk that's it though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Bad Brains (I doubt they will get in.)The Cars (They should already be in there. I suppose they are mostly forgotten today.)Chaka Khan (I doubt she will get in.)Chic (Maybe they will?)Depeche Mode (Still at it, maybe they will get in)Electric Light Orchestra (Probably about the same as The Cars.)J. Geils Band (Probably about the same as The Cars.)Jane’s Addiction (One good album?)Janet Jackson (I don’t get this one.)Joan Baez (Should be in there – probably not really interested.)Joe Tex (One of those early influence type deals)Journey (Probably about the same as The Cars.)Kraftwerk (Probably more important in Europe than here)MC5 (More legend than band?)Pearl Jam (One of the greatest bands of all times)Steppenwolf (Once great – now it is one guy playing biker bars)Tupac Shakur (I don’t know anything about this guy. Whenever I see people wearing a T-shirt with his photo on the front – I expect trouble)Yes (One of the greatest bands of all times)The Zombies (Should thank Al Kooper if they get in) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Jane’s Addiction (One good album?) I think that there are at least 2 great albums—Nothing's Shocking and Ritual de Lo Habitual. And a 3rd that is very, very good (the live, self-titled one that came out before Nothing's Shocking). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 all that says is that the RnRHoF is as big a steaming coil as we all figured it was. I prefer the term "piss stain" as John Lydon put it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think that there are at least 2 great albums—Nothing's Shocking and Ritual de Lo Habitual. And a 3rd that is very, very good (the live, self-titled one that came out before Nothing's Shocking).Yes. Still more prolific than one song.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Jane's Addiction...the band with the song every bass player always wants to play, but which annoys the shit out of all drummers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I was wondering if Uncle Tupreo were eligible (yes, as of 2015), so I googled "uncle tupelo eligible rock and roll hall of fame" and the first hit was www.notinhalloffame.com I clicked on it and found this gem: Uncle Tupelo will likely not get indicted, although its lead member, Jeff Tweedy has an excellent shot with his later effort, Wilco. Ah, the internet, where anyone can be published. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Uncle Tupelo will likely not get indicted, although its lead member, Jeff Tweedy has an excellent shot with his later effort, Wilco. Ah, the internet, where anyone can be published. I do think that's a pretty fair assessment, nonetheless.Jane's Addiction...the band with the song every bass player always wants to play, but which annoys the shit out of all drummers."Three Days"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Jane's Addiction...the band with the song every bass player always wants to play, but which annoys the shit out of all drummers.which song? I play bass, and I've never been pulled towards anything by them.I was wondering if Uncle Tupreo were eligible (yes, as of 2015), so I googled "uncle tupelo eligible rock and roll hall of fame" and the first hit was www.notinhalloffame.com I clicked on it and found this gem: Uncle Tupelo will likely not get indicted, although its lead member, Jeff Tweedy has an excellent shot with his later effort, Wilco. Ah, the internet, where anyone can be published. indicted? Yikes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I do think that's a pretty fair assessment, nonetheless."Three Days"?"Mountain Song"?"Been Caught Stealing"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Mountain Song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Mountain Song. "Three Days" is a better bass line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 "Three Days" is a better bass line. Yes. It's also another example of a song bass players always want to jam on, but which goes nowhere. Exactly like Dazed and Confused, in that sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s Class of 2017 appears to have a little something for everyone.The six performer inductees announced Tuesday reflect a wide reach in time and style, ranging from Joan Baez, who began her folk career in the early 1960s, to Pearl Jam, a leader of the Seattle grunge sound, and the late rapper Tupac Shakur, who released hit albums in the 1990s.The three other inductees include two English bands, Electric Light Orchestra (ELO) and Yes, which broke through in the early 1970s, and San Francisco-based Journey, which scored its biggest hits, including the anthemic Don’t Stop Believin’, in the 1980s.Producer, songwriter and guitarist Nile Rodgers will receive the Award for Musical Excellence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Pearl Jam and Journey are about as opposite as you can get in the rock spectrum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Don't Stop Believin belongs in the Great Train Songs thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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