New album news!

[Vacant Horizon]

That sounds great

 

 

what about 'Let's Fight'? is that song too old? would also love to see 'My Words' on this album!

what are some other unreleased songs that haven't made it to an album yet?

 

I think it was only played at a Living Room Show. No recording available (yet).

 

 

oh, isn't there a song about sunshine?

[mfwahl]

Oh, has "Deeper Down" surfaced? I didn't see it posted anywhere. I've been waiting to hear that one.

Thought it was played on this latest solo tour. Doesn't look like it.

 

oh, isn't there a song about sunshine?

Sunny Feeling?

 

 

I would be surprised if Let's Fight made it on this album. Maybe, but you would think they would be playing it live at least once in a while.

[Vacant Horizon]

Thought it was played on this latest solo tour. Doesn't look like it.

 

 

Sunny Feeling?

 

 

I would be surprised if Let's Fight made it on this album. Maybe, but you would think they would be playing it live at least once in a while.

 

 

Sunny Feeling...that's it! thanks.

 

speaking of lets fight, i've only heard it once. i can't remember if it's any good. i'm just fascinated by the process of choosing songs to play live and to put on an album. it's a huge part of the creative process as far as i am concerned. totally mystical.

[jakobnicholas]

I would be surprised if Let's Fight made it on this album. Maybe, but you would think they would be playing it live at least once in a while.

 

 

 

I like "Let's Fight". I actually like it better than the version I've heard "I'll Fight"...though I've only listened to it a couple times.

[Vacant Horizon]

I like "Let's Fight". I actually like it better than the version I've heard "I'll Fight"...though I've only listened to it a couple times.

 

 

okay so I'll Fight IS a reworking of Let's Fight???

[Kalle]

Two completely different songs.

[Littlebear]

The SLIGHTLY NAUSEATING: Talking about "My Country Has Disappeared", he explains how he wrote the song pre-election and he wants it to be a hopeful song after 8 crappy years. I know George Bush won't go down as a one of the greatest Presidents, but this sweeping thought that Bush's 8 years has sucked and was miserable to live through just gets so tired. Wilco have exploded in those 8 years. Was life really that sucky for Mr. Tweedy? When he vacations to his Michigan home, is he THAT tortured that we've been in a controversial war? Fault Bush for the war. Fine. But is all this economic mess to be layed at Bush's feet? Is it Bush's fault that the stock market is in the tank? C'mon Jeff. Yeah, things kinda suck right NOW. But stop with this "8 years of living in Hell" crap.

 

I'm late on this, just reading the whole thread now. But I can't stand this kind of egoist argument. So, everything was doing fine with Tweedy and the band (well, he had his personal troubles, too - by the way), and he should just feel alright for that? What kind of humanity is this?

[Chris_H_2]

I think it was only played at a Living Room Show. No recording available (yet).

 

See, I knew I was good for something . . .

[Guest Jules]

See, I knew I was good for something . . .

[Edie]

See, I knew I was good for something . . .

 

Besides trouble

[jakobnicholas]

I'm late on this, just reading the whole thread now. But I can't stand this kind of egoist argument. So, everything was doing fine with Tweedy and the band (well, he had his personal troubles, too - by the way), and he should just feel alright for that? What kind of humanity is this?

 

 

 

What does "egoist argument" mean??

[Littlebear]

What does "egoist argument" mean??

 

You don't use "egoist" in English? OK, so let's say "selfish". I think it's selfish to say that one should feel alright just because all is fine with him.

 

It's not only selfish, it's typically *liberal* or *capitalist* as a way of thinking. It's thinking basically that all that is important is to be well personally, and let's not care of the rest of the world.

 

It's thinking that as long as you live in a country that allows you to speak and be happy and play music, you should only be allowed to shut up.

 

But to me, as a French, I'm afraid to say yeah, the image of the US pretty sucked a lot with GW Bush. And it makes me feel good to know that it sucked for some US citizens as well, especially for people like Tweedy whom I love the music. His words about those 8 Bush years are legitimate, and not tired at all.

 

I was also on the Yahoo list of Wilco a few years back. When Tweedy spoke his mind about the war in Iraq, I saw a lot of *fans* unsubscribing from the list.

 

Tolerance is beautiful, isn't it? But more than that, it gives an idea of the kind of craziness that went then.

[explodo]

You don't use "egoist" in English? OK, so let's say "selfish". I think it's selfish to say that one should feel alright just because all is fine with him.

 

It's not only selfish, it's typically *liberal* or *capitalist* as a way of thinking. It's thinking basically that all that is important is to be well personally, and let's not care of the rest of the world.

 

It's thinking that as long as you live in a country that allows you to speak and be happy and play music, you should only be allowed to shut up.

 

But to me, as a French, I'm afraid to say yeah, the image of the US pretty sucked a lot with GW Bush. And it makes me feel good to know that it sucked for some US citizens as well, especially for people like Tweedy whom I love the music. His words about those 8 Bush years are legitimate, and not tired at all.

 

I was also on the Yahoo list of Wilco a few years back. When Tweedy spoke his mind about the war in Iraq, I saw a lot of *fans* unsubscribing from the list.

 

Tolerance is beautiful, isn't it? But more than that, it gives an idea of the kind of craziness that went then.

In America, being selfish or an "egoist" (which we do say here) is typically a conservative value. (And I'm not saying that to start a political shitstorm, just to point out that conservatives want to keep all of their money and liberals want to give large portions of it away through taxation with the hope that our country spends it wisely)

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

I don't think he/she meant liberal as an antonym to conservative.

[Littlebear]

In America, being selfish or an "egoist" (which we do say here) is typically a conservative value. (And I'm not saying that to start a political shitstorm, just to point out that conservatives want to keep all of their money and liberals want to give large portions of it away through taxation with the hope that our country spends it wisely)

 

Oh yeah, there's that difference with the French, too - here "liberal" doesn't have a positive notion (at least not for the leftist), it's an economical system that creates inequalities between the rich and the poor. Our respective countries have different histories and approaches of the word. To be schematic, in your country the conservatives are right winged, and liberals left winged, but in France, liberals are right winged, and our left wing is "socialist" (though our socialism actually accepts a liberal system, and the real left - still a minority - is more "revolutionary", or "anti-capitalist").

 

Our president Sarkozy is on the right wing, but may be more on the left wing than Obama. Curious, isn't it?

[explodo]

I don't think he/she meant liberal as an antonym to conservative.

I see that. My pea-sized brain can't handle words that have different meanings in different places.

[jakobnicholas]

You don't use "egoist" in English? OK, so let's say "selfish". I think it's selfish to say that one should feel alright just because all is fine with him.

 

It's not only selfish, it's typically *liberal* or *capitalist* as a way of thinking. It's thinking basically that all that is important is to be well personally, and let's not care of the rest of the world.

 

It's thinking that as long as you live in a country that allows you to speak and be happy and play music, you should only be allowed to shut up.

 

But to me, as a French, I'm afraid to say yeah, the image of the US pretty sucked a lot with GW Bush. And it makes me feel good to know that it sucked for some US citizens as well, especially for people like Tweedy whom I love the music. His words about those 8 Bush years are legitimate, and not tired at all.

 

I was also on the Yahoo list of Wilco a few years back. When Tweedy spoke his mind about the war in Iraq, I saw a lot of *fans* unsubscribing from the list.

 

Tolerance is beautiful, isn't it? But more than that, it gives an idea of the kind of craziness that went then.

 

 

 

Well, first, I'm so glad that we in the United States now have a good image in the eyes of the French. Phew!

 

 

So getting a Democrat in office will make Tweedy not feel awful and beaten down? We're still at war for at least 18 more months. There's still millions world-wide who live in poverty. Our economy...which was bad in Bush's last months...is way worse now, and many Obama-loving economic "experts" are scared shitless at some of Obama's decisions and think we could slide into a depression. Feel better Jeff?

 

Wasn't Bush showing humanity by providing 15 billion dollars to fight AIDS in Africa? And in Bush's mind, he felt he was helping humanity by ridding the world of Hussein and terrorists. Yeah, it got sloppy and many bad decisions were eventually made. Bush will have to live with that. But maybe much good has come out of the war.

 

 

 

What about the innocent unborn? With Obama in office, is it ok for ME to feel awful about that? Is it OK that I feel like Obama is being inhumane to ALL life?

 

Maybe, likely Tweedy, I'll let it inspire to write a beautiful song.

[dondoboy]

I thought this thread was about the new record. The Limbaugh thread is elsewhere.

[Moe_Syzlak]

What about the innocent unborn? With Obama in office, is it ok for ME to feel awful about that? Is it OK that I feel like Obama is being inhumane to ALL life?

Sure, why wouldn't it be.

[Littlebear]

But maybe much good has come out of the war.

 

and may be not. If we have to make a war to see that or not, in doubt, I prefer to avoid it. Naturally. Actually in 2003 GW Bush didn't let anyone decide otherwise. I remember everything, and was proud of Chirac's opposition then (but of course it didn't change anything, France is a small country to which the US image doesn't count).

 

And don't you think the war in Iraq did cost way too much for your economy? It'd have been better without it, no?

[explodo]

1 - Our economy...which was bad in Bush's last months...is way worse now,

 

2 - What about the innocent unborn? With Obama in office, is it ok for ME to feel awful about that? Is it OK that I feel like Obama is being inhumane to ALL life?

 

3 - Maybe, likely Tweedy, I'll let it inspire to write a beautiful song.

1 - Impossible to gauge how much of this, if any, is Obama's fault.

 

2- Yes, it is.

 

3 - You should.

[Preferred B]

Could we try to bring this back to the Wilco album? Or politics will become the Blu Ray of the new album thread.

 

It's an interesting discussion, but much of it belongs in Tongue-Tied Lightning.

[explodo]

It's an interesting discussion, but much of it belongs in Tongue-Tied Lightning.

Maybe you belong in tongue-tied lightning.

 

Not really, though. The new record is going to be boss. I heard there is a epic groove on track 9.

[Littlebear]

What about the innocent unborn? With Obama in office, is it ok for ME to feel awful about that? Is it OK that I feel like Obama is being inhumane to ALL life?

 

It's more humane to care about the environment than about the innocent unborn, if you ask me. Certainly less selfish, on a humane level.

[Preferred B]

Maybe you belong in tongue-tied lightning.

 

Not really, though. The new record is going to be boss. I heard there is a epic groove on track 9.

I like hearing everything you post in Kris's voice when I see your avatar.

 

Here's a new album thing I didn't see people talking much about (though maybe I missed it) - the fact that the Feist duet was recorded back in summer of 2008. Didn't RS make it sound like this was a recent event?