Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I think this album will be no good. If he had made an awesome album he wouldn't be sitting around the kitchen table, moping and feeling uncomfortable, now if he was all HI FIVE DUDE and air guitar solos would bring some hope. Not the artistic type, I take it. Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I think this album will be no good. If he had made an awesome album he wouldn't be sitting around the kitchen table, moping and feeling uncomfortable, now if he was all HI FIVE DUDE and air guitar solos would bring some hope. Your kidding right? I don't think Jeff is the type that HI FIVE'S DUDE's, rips out the air guitar, busts open a Bud Light and screams "now lets watch the game boys!!!" He's an artist.. What I got from that quote is the album is going to be a great work of art, like all of this other albums.. Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Yeah. I'm not sure hearing the early live versions of most of what might be on the album puts anyone in a better position to know what the thing will actually sound/feel like. Again, the reviews are coming in before anyone has heard the thing. Well, when I listen back to the early live versions of the songs on Yankee and Ghost (and even as far back as Being There and Summerteeth) even though they weren't fully formed yet, there was something there immediately that made me think "wow, they've got something wonderful here." Even when I listen to the late 2005 Tweedy solo shows, I could tell "The Ruling Class" was going to be amazing, and that I was probably never going to be crazy about Is That The Thanks I Get? So, even though I don't have any idea what this record is going to be like I do think it's fine to speculate on the quality of the rough material thus far. With the disclaimer that everything could get better or worse when it comes to the album version. --Mike Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Gyrrr Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 ... and -- hopefully -- by what one actually hears on the album. I think this album will be no good. I thought I was funny. Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Well, when I listen back to the early live versions of the songs on Yankee and Ghost (and even as far back as Being There and Summerteeth) even though they weren't fully formed yet, there was something there immediately that made me think "wow, they've got something wonderful here." Even when I listen to the late 2005 Tweedy solo shows, I could tell "The Ruling Class" was going to be amazing, and that I was probably never going to be crazy about Is That The Thanks I Get? So, even though I don't have any idea what this record is going to be like I do think it's fine to speculate on the quality of the rough material thus far. With the disclaimer that everything could get better or worse when it comes to the album version. --MikeI agree. Does speculation and early listens and glimpses (watching the Colbert Report for instance) cloud what I'm ultimately going to think when I listen to the album the first 15-20 times? I don't think so. Whatever is there is going to grab me by the woohoo. Or not. Past experience with Wilco calls for protecting my woohoo, though. Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I thought I was funny. Sorry... in that case it was funny.. I have a hard time detecting sarcasm sometimes on this board. Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I think this album will be no good. If he had made an awesome album he wouldn't be sitting around the kitchen table, moping and feeling uncomfortable, now if he was all HI FIVE DUDE and air guitar solos would bring some hope.I just spit a mouthful of Coca-Cola on my computer! Who is he? Puddy? Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Well, when I listen back to the early live versions of the songs on Yankee and Ghost (and even as far back as Being There and Summerteeth) even though they weren't fully formed yet, there was something there immediately that made me think "wow, they've got something wonderful here." Even when I listen to the late 2005 Tweedy solo shows, I could tell "The Ruling Class" was going to be amazing, and that I was probably never going to be crazy about Is That The Thanks I Get? So, even though I don't have any idea what this record is going to be like I do think it's fine to speculate on the quality of the rough material thus far. With the disclaimer that everything could get better or worse when it comes to the album version. --Mike I think it is fine, and fair. I just keep holding my opinion until I hear the real deal. I heard the live debut of "The Late Greats" and it was pretty lame. Early live recordings showed "Impossible Germany" to be promising, but it wasn't yet essential- but it is now. I guess if I were to drop any judgement on a slap-dash collection of solo, and full band live debuts: I would say it looks promising. I really like SBS, but I think this might even be better. Sorry... in that case it was funny.. I have a hard time detecting sarcasm sometimes on this board. +1 Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Gyrrr Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Sorry... in that case it was funny.. I have a hard time detecting sarcasm sometimes on this board. I was aiming for contrary or something. Speaking of communication breakdown, can somebody tell me what the monkey emoticon means? I've seen it used but can't figure it out. Or this one? Oh and I've never even seen this one Where are the rest of the animals? Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 You've spent blood and sweat in the vulnerability of the creative process, laid your heart open, then you have to think about what you want to say about it on the record, knowing you're going to be judged against what you say now, and that the music will be judged against what you say, and what you said before will be judged based on what others say about the album, and -- hopefully -- by what one actually hears on the album. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 7-Zip is even better. It wont start bugging you after 30 days to buy the software.TugZip is good too. And free. Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Showing off your emoticon palette? Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I'm saying that if that's the worst thing Jeff Tweedy has to worry about, it does not suck to be Jeff Tweedy. Link to post Share on other sites
Sly like a Foxwell Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I'm saying that if that's the worst thing Jeff Tweedy has to worry about, it does not suck to be Jeff Tweedy. truer words have never been spoken. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 truer words have never been spoken.Creative angst may not be as bad as "OMG, am I going to starve to death" angst or "OMG, am I going to get a bomb dropped on me by some asshole in a Stuka" angst, but if your livelihood rests upon the quality of your creative output, uncertainty about it can be very unpleasant.And, do you NOT want the dude to take what he does seriously? Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Creative angst may not be as bad as "OMG, am I going to starve to death" angst or "OMG, am I going to get a bomb dropped on me by some asshole in a Stuka" angst, but if your livelihood rests upon the quality of your creative output, uncertainty about it can be very unpleasant.And, do you NOT want the dude to take what he does seriously? The old perspective arguement. It is the difference between being imprisoned in actuality, living in "my own prison", or feeling competely disconnected due to previous reference from a Creed album. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Creative angst may not be as bad as "OMG, am I going to starve to death" angst or "OMG, am I going to get a bomb dropped on me by some asshole in a Stuka" angstYou've been dying to use "Stuka" in a sentence, haven't you. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 You've been dying to use "Stuka" in a sentence, haven't you.Not really - I had a lot of creative angst over whether the reference is too dated. Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Not really - I had a lot of creative angst over whether the reference is too dated.Nah, the guy wrote a song called "Impossible Germany" Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Creative angst may not be as bad as "OMG, am I going to starve to death" angst or "OMG, am I going to get a bomb dropped on me by some asshole in a Stuka" angst, but if your livelihood rests upon the quality of your creative output, uncertainty about it can be very unpleasant.And, do you NOT want the dude to take what he does seriously?Absolutely, it's his livelihood, and he should take it seriously. However, I disagree on principle that it can suck to be someone who makes his living playing in a rock band, based on the fact that he has to talk about his new album sometimes. It can absolutely suck to be someone who makes his living playing in a rock band, for other reasons. Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Jeff Tweedy will never be "laid off". Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 i've been avoiding this thread to shield myself from new album news, but wouldn't this image make a great album cover or some other something to follow-up to the sky blue sky image. it is not my image, i found it on the washington post website. Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 It can absolutely suck to be someone who makes his living playing in a rock band, for other reasons.VD Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 i've been avoiding this thread to shield myself from new album news, but wouldn't this image make a great album cover or some other something to follow-up to the sky blue sky image. it is not my image, i found it on the washington post website. I'm kind of hoping they get away from the color scheme they've had on the last 4 albums. They've all been fairly monochromatic since Summerteeth. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I'm kind of hoping they get away from the color scheme they've had on the last 4 albums. They've all been fairly monochromatic since Summerteeth.agreed. i think it's time for a good retro (maybe even psychedelic) and colorful album cover. Link to post Share on other sites
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