Kalle Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Any Pink Floyd or Grateful Dead albums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardwood floor Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Oh Lord yes. And for me you can add that GBV stuff too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 There are a number of great comments and viewpoints on this thread. Thanks for sharing, but I think ultimately it comes down to how you experience it. Your musical tastes are built and honed, but they're still viewed through experience of the here and now, and filtered through your emotions or frame of reference. Some "classic" albums lose their perception as such over time. Removed from the time or popularity of a genre and sub-genre, they're striipped of their relelvance and the music doesn't stand on its own. Great is the rediscovered classic, whose depth, message, recording technique, or overall theme stands on its own regardless of time and place. Often your first listening to anything is elevated or doomed based on where you're at -- physically and emotionally --upon listening to it. Who suggested it and what you think of that person can ruin it for you. The best, most recent example I can find of this is SBS. In the situation I first listened to it, it was a great experience and is an album I cherish. It rekindled my enjoyment of Wilco and affected other music I've listened to since (more indirectly rather than direct influence from that album, if that makes any sense). In another circumstance, I might have said, "meh." Is it a classic album? I dunno. But through the prism of those first moments, it sure looks like one. i'm that way with AGIB. the other albums do not do it for me the way AGIB does it. i first heard online with their cool old timey radio player. so great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 If anything, Sgt. Pepper is underrated these days, as it is not a 'cool' Beatles album, like Revolver or The White Album. yeah, i think you're right there. although, i personally think that's fair enough compared to those 2, plus a few of their others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Oh Lord yes. And for me you can add that GBV stuff too. But did you and Jules VOTE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 There is a lot of truth to this. Bon Iver - For Emma... I stopped reading that sentence at this point. I'll take "Horses" any day of the week over that tripe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Patti Smith - Horses By all accounts, I should love this record. It is in a style that I adore, made with people that I really dig, coming from a scene that is one of my favorites. Also, it is held up as an essential of that genre.Somehow, it just leaves me cold. Am I missing something?Yes, but maybe you had to be there. Maybe it has not aged well.. LouieB There is a lot of truth to this. Bon Iver - For Emma is a good example. Knowing the cabin story and the mental state he was in makes it heartwrenching to listen to. If the story wasn't true, it was absolute marketing genius and it made him a star.Emma is not a classic. In fact in a couple years it will barely be remembered. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 pet sounds a few GREAT tunes, but the rest... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I'm glad others have mentioned Trout Mask because that one never worked for me either. is that because you don't get Beefheart in general, or just that album. i will say that I prefer _Safe As Milk_ but i do like TMR as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 that Neutral Milk Hotel crap.+1 I wouldn't say it's crap; it just doesn't do anything for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marino13 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Yes, but maybe you had to be there. Maybe it has not aged well.. LouieB Emma is not a classic. In fact in a couple years it will barely be remembered. LouieB Sorry, I wasn't using Emma as a classic, just an example of liking an album better when put in context. I should have been more clear. Another thing to note regarding giving an album hundreds of chances to click. For me, I know there is so much good music out there that I haven't discovered and more good stuff coming out every week. Add to that all the music I already own that I want to listen to and sometimes I would rather just move on than beat an album to death that I'm just not feeling. Too many good tunes to go around and not enough time to listen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 pet sounds a few GREAT tunes, but the rest...EVery few years we hash this one out...I agree with you, but Pet Sounds is not simply about the songs, it is about the sound. Beefheart....great but an aquired taste all around. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Beefheart....great but an aquired taste all around. I disagree he has always had "An emporers new clothes" feel to me. People rave about him publicly and wax peotically about his genius and how difficult it is to understand him, but in the long run, I do not believe that what they write means what they think it means. And he is basiclaly exposed for what he is on the very first listen. Beer is an ecquired taste and I grew to like it fairly quickly and love it over time. I neither love Beefheart nor like him and I have been trying for far longer than I have with beer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Try Beefheart's first album, Safe As Milk. It's weird, but not to the usual Beefheart level. Quite listenable, and I would say quite enjoyable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky speaks Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 interesting topic for me, and i guess this is blasphemy, but Sgt. Pepper falls into this category i like it OK, but to hear it spoken of in hallowed and mystical tones ... picked by rolling stone as the greatest album ever ... to me, it's got two flat-out classics -- she's leaving home and a day in the life but the greatest album ever? with fixing a hole? benefit of mr. kite? within you without you? lovely rita? when i'm 64? that's a LOT of filler for the greatest album ever if i'm listening to the beatles -- which comes hard for me these days for some reason -- i would much rather listen to the white album, revolver, abby road, rubber soul or some of the super early stuff i just don't get Sgt. Pepper If you were alive and old enough to remember what listening to that album was like for the very first time, you would get it.......It was like nothing you had heard before........You have to view it in the context of what it meant at the time of its' release.......It was a milestone in the recording business one might say........But the White Album is my favorite....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 If you were alive and old enough to remember what listening to that album was like for the very first time, you would get it.......It was like nothing you had heard before........You have to view it in the context of what it meant at the time of its' release.......It was a milestone in the recording business one might say........But the White Album is my favorite.......Wouldn't the term "classic" imply that, no matter the time period, it held up. That it could be listened to in any context and still be great? I don't think of any Led Zeppelin album in the context of what it meant at the time it was released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deepseacatfish Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Most "classic" albums, I can get even if I don't find them to be my favorites or particularly compelling. Even something like Trout Mask Replica I get...but I don't listen to repeatedly because it's just not that kind of album for me. I've yet to find a classic album that I just can't listen to, or see why it might be regarded as influential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Most "classic" albums, I can get even if I don't find them to be my favorites or particularly compelling. Even something like Trout Mask Replica I get...but I don't listen to repeatedly because it's just not that kind of album for me. I've yet to find a classic album that I just can't listen to, or see why it might be regarded as influential.Thanks for eloquently stating my feelings on this subject. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GtrPlyr Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Try Beefheart's first album, Safe As Milk. It's weird, but not to the usual Beefheart level. Quite listenable, and I would say quite enjoyable.That's probably my favorite of his. Definitely a good one to start with for anyone curious about the mans music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Exqueese me? Have I seen this one before? "Frampton Comes Alive"? Everybody in the world has Frampton Comes Alive. If you lived in the suburbs you were issued it. It came in the mail with samples of "Tide".-Wayne Don't get this record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 pet sounds a few GREAT tunes, but the rest... Yes, this is mine as well. Couple amazing songs on it for sure, and I'm glad it inspired Paul to aim higher, but I just find a lot of it very boring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Pearl Jam- Ten It always baffled me how this got called Alternative when it basically pedalled the same sort of corporate rock schlock riffs that had dominated Radio since the mid-70s. Pearl Jam had about as much to do with Punk as Aerosmith did. The White Stripes- Elephant It has maybe 4 okay songs. It has nothing worth being considered legendary. The Arcade Fire- Funeral. It's not a bad album. It's just been done before. "Rebellion (Lies)', "Neighborhood #1" and "Wake Up" are great singles, but I sort of feel like other songs on the album fail to live upto that promise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I think it has more to do with his voice than anything else. And that's something J. Mascis never had. I agree, I will take Nirvana over Dinosaur Jr. anyday, although I love D. Jr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I agree, I will take Nirvana over Dinosaur Jr. anyday, although I love D. Jr. Random fact, Thurston Moore once tried to convince J Mascis to join Nirvana after Barlow left Dinosaur, and their future was in doubt. This was in the late 80s though, so Mascis was pretty incredulous about joining a band that at the time, only had a single out, and an LP forthcoming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orkie Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Any Pink Floyd or Grateful Dead albums. The two greatest psychedelic bands of all time, and also the two single greatest live acts in rock history(ok, throw the young WHO in there as well) both in terms of the show and the technology they pushed to change the live experience as we know it today. Sad that you are missing out on such talented acts. They made albums that worked great while on psychedelics and while sober. The only artists more influential were the Beatles and Dylan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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