Synthesizer Patel Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 This may get me kicked off of VC, but I'm not into The Band. I've tried to listen to Music from Big Pink, it's just meh for me. no. you'd only get kicked off if you said you liked their album Islands - that'd warrant a kicking. have you heard the second album? or any of their other stuff? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 but the material on it is mostly about coming of age. if you no longer agonize over coming of age it won't sound all that great to you.This is a great comment, because it invites the question, "what is a 'classic' rock & roll album?" given that the entire genre is based on youth, rebellion, and "primal urges" ("Roll with Me Henry"). If it stands the test of time, it means it has to have permanence beyond the youthful experience, (you "get it" even after you can't get it up) which would negate it's value to the true rock n roll experience. And a tiny atom under my fingernail could be ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have said this repeatedly here, the Beach Boys wrote music for kids, even when they were older it was still teen music. Now they perform for 50 and 60 year olds who want to think they are still kids. LouieB I don't know if these albums are teen music exactly. One of the reasons Pet Sounds was considered a failure was due to the fact that the kids did not go for it: # Pet Sounds (1966)# Smiley Smile (1967)# Wild Honey (1967)# Friends (1968)# 20/20 (1969)# Sunflower (1970)# Surf's Up (1971)# Carl and the Passions - "So Tough" (1972)# Holland (1973)# 15 Big Ones (1976)# Love You (1977)# M.I.U. Album (1978)# L.A. (Light Album) (1979) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I dont think you have to be 17 or remember what it was like to be 17 to be knocked flat by I Just Wasn't Made For These Times. Or That's Not Me. Or You Still Believe in Me. Or God Only Knows. Or Caroline No. Or Here Today. Or I Know There's An Answer. It's cool if folks don't like it (or "get" it), but it's probably the album that gets me in the gut the hardest. It's my Plastic Ono Band. If that makes any sense. There's not an ounce of filler on there IMO. (Sorry for turning this into Pet Sounds Debated on VC v14.0) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 As much as I love Pet Sounds, it's true that I was most into it - and most connected to it - when I was in my mid-20s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 It's cool if folks don't like it (or "get" it), but it's probably the album that gets me in the gut the hardest. It's my Plastic Ono Band. If that makes any sense. There's not an ounce of filler on there IMO.That makes perfect sense! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 This may get me kicked off of VC, but I'm not into The Band. I've tried to listen to Music from Big Pink, it's just meh for me.I love The Band, but I don't listen to that record much. Try the self-titled album, if you're up for another attempt. If you still don't like them after that, then they truly aren't your thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Big Pink is the only Band I own - and I don't really like it. I've been meaning to try out the self-titled one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 The Band is SICK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I loves me some London Calling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Big Pink is the only Band I own - and I don't really like it. I've been meaning to try out the self-titled one. i think you'd like Stage Fright or Cahoots. probably, anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 The Band actually wrote songs for adults..... and personally I can't imagine not liking them. I suppose it is not possible to "get" them, but I just can't imagine it. But then again, that's why these kinds of threads don't make sense since not everyone has to get every kind of music or song. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 The Band is SICK. I loves me some London Calling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 London Calling is great to my ears. Aeroplane IS all that. Knowing it was inspired by the Diary of Anne Frank makes it even more interesting. Sgt. Peppers is great 'cause of its vibe. I think it works fabulous as a whole. How many really think Nirvana is better than Dino Jr.? Seriously...music's subjective, but that's just wrong. I don't dislike Cobain's voice, but J. Mascis voice works VERY well with Dino's sound. He can sing kinda gruff in some songs, very pretty in others. I'm not sure what "Better" means in this context. Yes, J. Mascis is a better guitarist. Better songwriter? No. Better singer? No. For some reason Dinosaur Jr. is considered the hipper, cooler, or whatever band but I like Nirvana's sonwriting better. I can't imagine Dinosaur Jr. pulling off an unplugged show like Nirvana did. I have never heard a song from Dinosaur Jr. that's as good as "All Apologies". And that's my subjective truth! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DocShock Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 The Band is SICK. Agreed. Love the Band Don't love Neutral Milk, tried and tried to listen to them. Can't do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm not sure what "Better" means in this context. Yes, J. Mascis is a better guitarist. Better songwriter? No. Better singer? No. For some reason Dinosaur Jr. is considered the hipper, cooler, or whatever band but I like Nirvana's sonwriting better. I can't imagine Dinosaur Jr. pulling off an unplugged show like Nirvana did. I have never heard a song from Dinosaur Jr. that's as good as "All Apologies". And that's my subjective truth! Ha. This is silly. We all have our OPINIONS. I prefer Mascis' song-writing AND singing. Nirvana was THE hip band and the music industry in general fawns over Cobain and Nirvana. I could list 10 Dino. Jr. songs I like better than All Apologies. I think my favorite Cobain performance was when he sang a David Bowie song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have never heard a song from Dinosaur Jr. that's as good as "All Apologies". And that's my subjective truth! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln8XsL6veaU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrNo Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 My Bloody Valentine is playing here tonight, but I'm not going. I bought Loveless in college and have never really understood what all the fuss was about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm not sure what "Better" means in this context. Yes, J. Mascis is a better guitarist. Better songwriter? No. Better singer? No. For some reason Dinosaur Jr. is considered the hipper, cooler, or whatever band but I like Nirvana's sonwriting better. I can't imagine Dinosaur Jr. pulling off an unplugged show like Nirvana did. I have never heard a song from Dinosaur Jr. that's as good as "All Apologies". And that's my subjective truth! Listen to "Mind Glow" off of Without A Sound Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 My Bloody Valentine is playing here tonight, but I'm not going. I bought Loveless in college and have never really understood what all the fuss was about. texture over melody (though they can churn out out a good melody when they want to...cf "When You Sleep"). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 London Calling is great to my ears. Aeroplane IS all that. Knowing it was inspired by the Diary of Anne Frank makes it even more interesting. Sgt. Peppers is great 'cause of its vibe. I think it works fabulous as a whole. How many really think Nirvana is better than Dino Jr.? Seriously...music's subjective, but that's just wrong. I don't dislike Cobain's voice, but J. Mascis voice works VERY well with Dino's sound. He can sing kinda gruff in some songs, very pretty in others. I can think of about 10 Nirvana songs I like more than any Dino Jr song. Mascis is a better guitar player sure, but I haven't heard too many Dino songs I'd consider out and out classics. "Freak Scene" and maybe "Little Furry Things" hold upto Cobain's best, but that's about it by my ears. And for the record, I actually find the David Bowie cover kind of boring, it's better than the original (probably the only Bowie song Nirvana could pull off better than an original) but I find The cover of Leadbelly's "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" is much more inspiring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln8XsL6veaU This is a good one but saying it's better than All Apologies is kind of silly. As for other overrated albums: Sorry my psychedelic loving friends, never got a lick of anything out of this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 As for other overrated albums: Sorry my psychedelic loving friends, never got a lick of anything out of this one.I love that album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I love that album. Did it hit you instantly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Nirvana or Dino is pretty clear for me, although I certainly enjoy both. There just no topping Cobain's hooks or that howl of a voice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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