replacements75 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 As far as my knowledge and experience goes with litigation (which is honestly quite limited) but I would believe that Jeff is only one of the names being named in the document. For the most part lawyers name every possible responsible party figuring that one will end up paying. I would think that besides Jeff, it would also name the management, the record company, the documentary's production company and director, as well as any company that handles performance royalties. At least thats what I would think. The reporting of this story just seems to go to the sensationalistic nature of the news media. Mentioning only Jeff's name is quite an attention grabber. Just look at all the chatter here. 8 pages worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pmancini100 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 true. im gonna listen to the magnificent defeat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 It sucks, but I'm not entirely naive that this sort of thing can and does occur. Even the most creatively accomplished and harmonious bands can bust up and dissolve into bitter, acrimonious lawsuits that drag on for years....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 well wait, why would jay bennett still be collecting royalties when hes not on certain contracts anymore. i dont think hes entitled to royalties from i am trying to break your heart. just the albums he was involved inUm. Jay Bennett was all over I Am Trying To Break Your Heart. Of course he should be getting residuals for new showings of the movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/05/05/Wilco.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 yep........me too. In ways you can't imagine...... Jay must have been tripped up by a very convincing ambulance chaser...F**K! -RobertThe lawyer listed seems to be an entertainment lawyer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Um. Jay Bennett was all over I Am Trying To Break Your Heart. Of course he should be getting residuals for new showings of the movie. Shouldn't that kid who eats a corn dog during one of the sound checks also get residuals? I think he has a pretty strong case, personally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Shouldn't that kid who eats a corn dog during one of the sound checks also get residuals? I think he has a pretty strong case, personally.Sure, why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Maybe Scottie Pippen couldn't hold Jordan's jockstrap, but how many titles would Jordan have without him?8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basil II Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Shouldn't that kid who eats a corn dog during one of the sound checks also get residuals? I think he has a pretty strong case, personally. I'm suprised that hasn't shown up as some one's avatar,personally.... -Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J_Lefty Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Timothy P. Donohue must have a Myspace account. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Isn't Jeff's middle name "Scott" and not "Scot"? And everyone should read the court document that gogo posted before speculating any more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 thanks gogo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bhickman Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 This all went south pretty quick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I so want this to show up on Judge Judy or the like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/05/05/Wilco.pdf Thanks for the link...that was interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 A few things: * Jay as "THE" producer? I'm pretty sure most of those records have a producer listed that isn't Jay, right? I don't have any records handy, but I thought they either said 'Wilco' or some other person. * Jeff "PRODUCED" IATTBYH? Huh. * Seems weird that Jay never formally signed the contract. Implied contracts get good traction in court, if I recall correctly, especially when payment is well documented, but I think the termination of such an implied contract would also be pretty damned clear in this case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I'm suprised that hasn't shown up as some one's avatar,personally....Help yourself: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I've never heard of anything making less sense than this. Have you checked that swine flu thread out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 This seems weird: "...15% of the income generated by sales and performances of the group's recordings of the song earned during each non-owning members term" and the very next line is: ...continual and perpetual". Don't those two things seem opposed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 8 Touche. But you're a homer. In your world, Jordan with Bennett, Tweedy, Bach and Coomer would have won a Championship. What do you all you legal experts think of Jay's suit? I'm an idiot about such things, but Jay's claims at least SEEM to have a little basis to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxiebean Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 * Jeff "PRODUCED" IATTBYH? Huh.Huh indeed. If #16 (above) isn't true then I'd think the IATTBYH part of the lawsuit gets tossed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 This seems weird: "...15% of the income generated by sales and performances of the group's recordings of the song earned during each non-owning members term" and the very next line is: ...continual and perpetual". Don't those two things seem opposed?I think it's money earned from sales and performance of those songs created during each member's tenure. So royalties from all the songs published from 11/94 to 8/01 would be continually and perpetually paid to those members who were part of the band at that time, no matter when they are played. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Huh indeed. If #16 (above) isn't true then I'd think the IATTBYH part of the lawsuit gets tossed. from allmovie.com IATTBYH production credits: Sam Jones - Producer / Director / Cinematographer Peter Abraham - Producer Tracy McKnight - Musical Direction/Supervision Jeff Tweedy - Songwriter Wilco - Featured Music Erin Nordstrom - Editor Patrick Solomon - Associate Producer Barbara Winton - Associate Producer Charlie Winton - Associate Producer Albert Berger - Executive Producer Gary Hustwit - Executive Producer Ron Yerxa - Executive Producer Moe Chamberlain - Sound/Sound Designer Chat Gunther - Sound/Sound Designer John Gurrin - Sound/Sound Designer Adam Joseph - Sound/Sound Designer Charles Kelly - Sound/Sound Designer Larry Loewinger - Sound/Sound Designer Roger Stevenson - Sound/Sound Designer Chris Philp - Supervising Sound Editor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 But you're a homer. In your world, Jordan with Bennett, Tweedy, Bach and Coomer would have won a Championship.I Am Trying To Space Jam Your Heart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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