explodo Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Well put. Look, if we want to broaden this, the 'rock' records that get remembered are the groundbreaking ones. The ones that critics salivate over are the ones that try something different. You can write/record all the lovely songs that you want but they won't be noticed in the same way, especially on boards like this where every last note is dissected. The YHF lovers will not love this (very fine) record as much for that very reason. This record will, I suspect, draw in a broader audience, and with that the YHF lovers will run for the hills. Sad, but true. We all defend our favourite bands, but come on, who hasn't felt that feeling of 'betrayal' when your best friend's aunt says they like the new Wilco record. Kind of cheapens it doesn't it and makes you want to like it less, to move on to something more challenging. You can't have it both ways. Radiohead remain at the top of their game because they'll never risk stepping out into the mainstream, compromising what they/their fans wanr them to be. For Tweedy, family man, demons behind him, it's a career now and some old fans will be shed along the way. Mixed opnion therefore is inevitable/unavoidable.Radiohead isn't mainstream? Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Ok...I overreacted. I can't quit this place. It's like a case of herpes...it's a gift that gives forever. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Radiohead isn't mainstream? THANK YOU! When you're in the Washington Post because you blew off Miley Cyrus at the Grammys, you're mainstream. Big time. Link to post Share on other sites
mastershake Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 they shouldn't have blown off miley - she's a nice girl. Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 they shouldn't have blown off miley - she's a nice girl.Can you blow off someone who already blows? Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 [quote name='Crow Daddy Magnus Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Can you blow off someone who already blows? Well that's exactly why you blow them off. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I seriously considered deleting my account yesterday. We Link to post Share on other sites
J_Lefty Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Huh? I'll take the Beatles and Beach Boys as well, then. LOL, touche... I have to say I have trouble stomaching a lot of beach boys, but point taken. Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 We Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 [quote name='Crow Daddy Magnus Link to post Share on other sites
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mpolak21 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Mike - you've mentioned this a few times. I certainly hear what you are talking about (I think), but "influenced"? Seems to me that there are some similarities in guitar tones, but not really much else. And those similarities feel more like coincidence than anything(or just different musicians independently thinking a certain sound/tone/pedal is cool). Maybe I am splitting hairs, but being influenced by something makes me picture the guys listening to Full Moon Fever in the loft and saying "yeah this is great, let's do this on our next album." And I just can't imagine that happened. Influence was probably the wrong word, I doubt the band was going for a Petty sound at all, and in fact if that comparsion gets picked up by a bunch of reviewers I could see Tweedy's reaction to it being similar to his reaction over SBS being called "the best album the Eagles ever made." I think the record just feels like Full Moon Fever to me, because it's a fun record I can put on whenever I am driving around. Like Full Moon Fever was for Petty, WTA is not Wilco's best album, but I personally feel it's one of their most accessible. I could see people who didn't necessarily like their records before for whatever reason getting into this one and subsequently I can also understand why long term fans might be a little put off by it in places. --Mike Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Just cue up another Wilco and atheism thread! Link to post Share on other sites
SeattleC Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 If you've loved every other album that Wilco has done other than AM, does that mean you loved BT, YHF and SBS, but not ST, AGIB and W(TA)? I'm so confused now. Maybe another cup of coffee would help. Or maybe I should go back to the rank the albums in the order they were released thread. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'm about seven spins in and I am declaring some 'grower' power on this record. My instant faves (One Wing, BBN, I'll Fight) sound even better and the ones that seemed a bit more mediocre (You Never Know, Country Disappeared) are finding a little spot in my heart. Link to post Share on other sites
RainDogToo Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'm about seven spins in and I am declaring some 'grower' power on this record. My instant faves (One Wing, BBN, I'll Fight) sound even better and the ones that seemed a bit more (You Never Know, ) are finding a little spot in my heart. Really, you find "Country Disappeared" mediocre? Link to post Share on other sites
keeprighton2 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Radiohead isn't mainstream? No. Popular yes (but only with discerning music fans) but very left of centre IMO. Does your mom like any Radiohead tunes? Thought not. Rest my case. Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Radiohead is not a mainstream band, they just have a fair amount of mainstream popularity. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 You & I is just gorgeous. Link to post Share on other sites
keeprighton2 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Wilco (the Album) will go down as the record that Jeff Tweedy wanted to be 'all things to all people' which rarely works. Just too eclectic in other words, falls between too many stools. That's all there is to it.BBN and YAI might be thematically cleverly contrasting bedfellows - murder, then love - but musically, one, then the other, they cannot be reconciled. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 it might also go down as the record that sold the most records so there's that and shit Link to post Share on other sites
BassMan77 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Too much overanalyzing going on...maybe its just a collection of songs the band liked. Link to post Share on other sites
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