solace Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 sad thing is, besides the whole molesting thing (which he was never actually convicted of, just saying), Britney Spears life has kind of reminded me of MJ's to a point... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 We'll all get to see that again, as I am sure VHI will run the 4 hour long Jackson Family movie sometime soon. The first record I ever picked out by myself was a Jackson Five record - around 1974 I think. I am sure it had to do with the cartoon that was on Saturday mornings back then. I can't say I ever liked his music after that time period. I didn't even know he was in LA. I thought he was living somewhere in the Middle East, being looked after by the Nation of Islam. At least, I recall reading that somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 He did make some great music. Unfortunately, due to what he did later in his life it's easy to forget that. However, his death doesn't really sadden me, although it is surprising. Without getting preachy or inappropriate, if you molest children like he did, I don't think you should have the chance to live as long as he did. It's a "gift that keeps on giving" so to speak in that those who are molested are nearly 100% more likely to molest their children or someone else's. It'd be interesting to see how the kids he touched turn out in the long run...As Solace said, it wasn't his fault. He didn't get to have a normal childhood, so he tried to replicate this as a grown man. Obviously it didn't bode well for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Shocked! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 It is sad, there is really no denying he was a hell of a musician. You can hear his talent all the way back to the Jackson 5 days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plumplechook Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 This is really sad. In spite of all the years of weirdness you cannot deny his brilliance. They were playing 'I Want You Back' on the radio on the way into work this morning. What a superb pop song that is - and what an amazing performance from an 11 year old kid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Rest in peace, Michael Jackson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiowilco Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Very sad news... Agree with earlier post - "Off the Wall" is and outstanding record - listening to it now - WOW!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rareair Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 thriller was a huge deal for me. released when i was 10 and obsessed with mtv. sad news no matter how freakish he eventually became. agree as well on feeling old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I am strangely neither surprised nor moved by this news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Paul gets his songs back now at least: http://www.spinner.com/2009/01/06/jackson-leaving-beatles-songs-to-mccartney-in-will/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 He was a pedophile who got away with it because he was rich. He could have written the national anthem and he'd still deserve to burn in hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I'll feel the same when OJ dies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Paul gets his songs back now at least: http://www.spinner.com/2009/01/06/jackson-leaving-beatles-songs-to-mccartney-in-will/ I wonder if the family will fight that deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plumplechook Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I am strangely neither surprised nor moved by this news. I am strangely both surprised and saddened by this news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I love him - always have, always will. I grew up listening to Thriller, and stood in line some years later to buy the HIStory album on the day of its release. Not sure we'll ever see another performer as talented and special as he was. RIP, Michael. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 He was a pedophile who got away with it because he was rich. He could have written the national anthem and he'd still deserve to burn in hell. i sure hope that if i was ever not-convicted of but rumored to have molested kids that at least some people would maybe give me the benefit of the doubt...not saying i don't think he was a kid toucher or not, but at the same time, the parents of those kids are on the hook somewhat too then if he paid them off. i mean Pete f'n Townshend was almost convicted of child porn too, but in his case I actually believe his story (he's just naive and a bit stupid however) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 See, I don't get it. It's like when guys would say, "Man that OJ sure could carry a football. (Oh gee, too bad about that whole decapitation thing.)" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 OJ got off. Really, I'm ok with my assesment and moral compass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 See, I don't get it. It's like when guys would say, "Man that OJ sure could carry a football. (Oh gee, too bad about that whole decapitation thing.)" the evidence that OJ did in fact kill 2 people is pretty undeniable. at the same time, so many people are quick to forget/dismiss the fact that Michael himself was abused as a child (and i'd be willing to bet sexually too). doesn't make what he allegedly did right, but it does explain things greatly. the circle continues to be unbroken with the kids he supposedly molested too. doesn't mean someone can't focus on the amazing talent & music he gave us before any of that happened. celebrate the music but not the person, pretty easy to separate the two imo. hell, am I going to never listen to another Phil Spector produced record now??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
u2roolz Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Sad day. Take care of yourselves out there, Kristofor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I wonder if the rumors were true regarding Jackson's poor health. I guess we'll find that out soon enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Whatever Michael Jackson did or didn't do in his troubled life, nothing will change the fact that I took a single sequined glove of my mother's and hid it under the bathroom sink to pretend I was him in the mirror when I was ten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Whatever Michael Jackson did or didn't do in his troubled life, nothing will change the fact that I took a single sequined glove of my mother's and hid it under the bathroom sink to pretend I was him in the mirror when I was ten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ponch1028 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Having worked with sexually abused children, I have the deepest sympathy, sensitivity, and defensiveness for anyone who has been abused in any form, and I have complex and mixed feelings about those who were molested and then went on to molest others. I wish I could find some black and white moral stance on it all that would provide me peace and solace, but rarely does anyone who knows someone or was sexually assaulted themselves (as children) find total peace on this side of heaven. It's hard not to look at Michael and his family when they were adorable kids and not be heartbroken by the idea that his parents messed them up for life. I think of some of the young victims I have known and worked with and it's difficult for me to ever think, that even if they were to commit the most dispicable of acts, I would still not be influenced by their traumatic events. I think that's how I've always approached my judgment of Michael Jackson. I can't condone his sins but I also can't condemn him either. All the same, I can't condemn those who feel intense judgment and condemnation against the man. But for those who do not share my ambivalance in judging him, please do not ever mistake my empathy and reservations as endorsing the man's life and the legacy he left as a person outside of music. Aside from all that, my first childhood hero has died. It does feel like a part of my childhood just went away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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