Beltmann Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 This is admittedly one of my pet peeves, but how can a magazine call itself legitimate and publish something like this? I'm with you. It's a sign of professionalism as well as credibility. I'm the faculty adviser for our high school newspaper, and even though we're just a dinky 12-page paper that publishes six times a year, our staff would be horrified to let something like that go to print. One of the last things we do before sending it off to the printer is scour each page multiple times for typos, errors, and misspelled names. (We actually check each printed name against the student database just to be sure.) There's really no excuse for lousy editing, especially not for publications that want to be taken seriously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 I still don't really get how a few typos can sink an entire magazine. I see mistakes, plot holes, continuity errors and similar sloppiness in movies all the time, (ones with a lot more money invested and people working on them than an indie publication, no less), and if the movie is generally good and entertaining I don't allow a few mistakes affect my enjoyment of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I don't think the analogy holds. Movie stories are cobbled together through a far more complex and intricate process, which therefore makes occasional "mistakes" like continuity errors forgivable. Writing and editing copy, though, is not a complex and intricate process. (Which is why it requires only a single dedicated soul, as opposed to the army working, often at cross purposes, on a movie.) If we want to keep the movie analogy, the equivalent error might be misspelling Tom Cruise's name in the opening credits or having boom mikes visible in every scene. That kind of error is, indeed, inexcusable in a movie that wants to be taken seriously. Granted, a single typo doesn't sink a magazine. (In fact, when I catch one in a publication like Sight & Sound or even Entertainment Weekly, it sticks out like a sore thumb only because it's so rare.) But frequent typos or glaring errors are indeed a reflection of the publication's professionalism and credibility. Does this mean typos wreck my enjoyment of a good interview? Not necessarily... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 I don't think the analogy holds. Movie stories are cobbled together through a far more complex and intricate process, which therefore makes occasional "mistakes" like continuity errors forgivable. Writing and editing copy, though, is not a complex and intricate process. (Which is why it requires only a single dedicated soul, as opposed to the army working, often at cross purposes, on a movie.) If we want to keep the movie analogy, the equivalent error might be misspelling Tom Cruise's name in the opening credits or having boom mikes visible in every scene. That kind of error is, indeed, inexcusable in a movie that wants to be taken seriously. Fair enough, although opening credits is more comparable to a typo on the cover a magazine to me (which is obviously way more of a rare occurence.) Also, it seems odd that with the armies working on movies and television, so many gaffes get through, of the variety of the guy with the left foot injured in one scene and a right foot bandaged in the next. (which was parodied to great affect in Young Frankenstein...) I think the viewing public is just more forgiving of movie / TV errors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 #12 - Sunken Treasure - http://www.americansongwriter.com/2009/07/the-top-20-jeff-tweedy-songs-12-sunken-treasure/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I still don't really get how a few typos can sink an entire magazine. I see mistakes, plot holes, continuity errors and similar sloppiness in movies all the time, (ones with a lot more money invested and people working on them than an indie publication, no less), and if the movie is generally good and entertaining I don't allow a few mistakes affect my enjoyment of it. Dude, it was a pull quote! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Al.Ducts Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 #12 - Sunken Treasure - http://www.americansongwriter.com/2009/07/the-top-20-jeff-tweedy-songs-12-sunken-treasure/ Another solid choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 Dude, it was a pull quote! Maybe you should write to the magazine's editors expressing your anger.......? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Maybe you should write to the magazine's editors expressing your anger.......? Nah I'm good with just yelling at you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nah I'm good with just yelling at you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Francis X. Hummel Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 With Gun and Sunken Treasure, this list is getting much better... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwilson580 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 At least you have to give this magazine's editors credit for originality. People are constantly writing "your" when they mean "you are." Much rarer is the elusive "you're" used as a possessive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 At least you have to give this magazine's editors credit for originality. People are constantly writing "your" when they mean "you are." Much rarer is the elusive "you're" used as a possessive. Good point there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 Your all a bunch of nitpickers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alecrothman Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I don't think I'm qualified to say where number 11 should really fall on the list, but I'm glad it's on there. I've been following this for the past week or so, and have to say, have been thoroughly enjoying it. So as not to spoil the fun... http://alturl.com/nwe3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 #11 - Laminated Cat aka Not For the Season - http://www.americansongwriter.com/2009/07/the-top-20-jeff-tweedy-songs-11-laminated-cat/ Yeah, this is arguably a top 5 song. I wonder what is ahead of it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Al.Ducts Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I would agree Laminated Cat could easily be top 5. Glad to just see it on the list though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Francis X. Hummel Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 My linkNo. 10 - Remember the Mountain Bed EDIT - I can't get the fucking link thing to work anymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 #10 - Remember the Mountain Bed - http://www.americansongwriter.com/2009/07/the-top-20-jeff-tweedy-songs-10-remember-the-mountain-bed/ I think your link just has too many https in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I've just about lost my patience with this list, who's idea was it to spread this thing out over 20 days again? Probably the same person that nominated Wilco The Song. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 #10 - Remember the Mountain Bed - http://www.americansongwriter.com/2009/07/the-top-20-jeff-tweedy-songs-10-remember-the-mountain-bed/ I think your link just has too many https in it."presumably written at the end of his life" (referring to Guthrie). I guess one can presume, or do some minimal research by checking wikipedia to see that it was written in 1944, a good 23 years before Guthrie passed. That's some crack journalism there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 "presumably written at the end of his life" (referring to Guthrie). I guess one can presume, or do some minimal research by checking wikipedia to see that it was written in 1944, a good 23 years before Guthrie passed. That's some crack journalism there. Yeah, it's my understanding the stuff written towards the end wasn't quite as poetic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 #9 - Please Tell My Brother - http://www.americansongwriter.com/2009/07/the-top-20-jeff-tweedy-songs-9-please-tell-my-brother/ Lots of Golden Smog love in that little blurb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Francis X. Hummel Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I do love Please Tell My Brother. Probably belongs on my list actually. Ever since Gun, this guy's list has been pretty solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Ever since Gun, this guy's list has been pretty solid. His order is way skewed. I cannot fathom putting Sunken Treasure and Laminated Cat before PTMB, not to mention a song Tweedy didn't even write. Overall I've loved all the songs, but really don't understand the order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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