Guest Jules Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 AMBTSTYHFAGIBSBSW(TA) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 AMBTSTYHFAGIBSBSW(TA) why do you hate wilco (the band)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J_Lefty Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Einstein's parallel universes theory You must not be a fan of the Eels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
euthe Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 "Sonny Feeling" is really being underrated here. It's the only song where Jeff really lets rip on guitar, and Nels is phenomenal. I have no fucking clue what the lyrics are about, but I like them. I like that it makes an Eminem reference. I really think that's part of the problem. Jeff ripping on guitar? I wish he'd go back to ripping folk guitar instead of trying to be someone he's not. Oh well. They still rock it hard live. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 "Sonny Feeling" is really being underrated here. It's the only song where Jeff really lets rip on guitar, and Nels is phenomenal. I have no fucking clue what the lyrics are about, but I like them. I like that it makes an Eminem reference.*likes Sonny Feeling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wilco fans mystify me. Of course I am one, so I guess I don`t have to look too far to feel confused. WTA isn`t the best anything. It takes a shitload of behind the scenes work to produce a record nowadays. I appreciate that the band has been touring incessantly, getting the new songs together, and got it all done and delivered 25 months after SBS. A lot of bands obsess for months, even years over a record. Probably Wilco could have made this a better record, but who cares? The perfect Wilco experience is when the band performs their stuff in front of your face, blow the roof off the joint and blow your brains out, for a paltry 30 bucks. Its just a fucking rock n roll band. Maybe some of us need to step away from the keyboard....relax a little..drink more, think less. Or is it the other way around. ok rant over Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 It IS all silly. And it's a little embarrassing to spout out what I think is wrong with something...as if I know better than the artist. But isn't that's what these forums are for? Isn't that's what's fun? ...To me, it's very similar to listening to an album. I so badly wanted One Wing to end in an orgasm-inducing musical jam. But it didn't. I wanted to love You Never Know, as it starts of so promising. Then I wonder why the f*ck Jeff has to repeat "I don't care anymore" 50 times. You and I is so damned sweet sounding, but I wish they would have added a little something more to the song. Listening to Jeff on Bull Black Nova is like the excitement of watching my team's return guy streaking down the side-line 80 yards for a touchdown. Go Jeff Go! Then listening to My Country Disappeared or Everlasting Everything is like sitting through the final 30 minutes of Dark Knight, when the Joker was off the screen and I was looking at my watch. This REALLY bothers you about YOU never know? ...I wonder why the f*ck Jeff has to repeat "I don't care anymore" 50 times. It's four repititions of two couplets of I don't care anymore x2. 16 times. Hardly on the scale of a live "Misunderstood". It seems as though you are looking for reasons to be discontent. If they finished One Wing with a guitar freakout you would complain that guitar solos are lazy songwriting tools are you would complain that Jay could have done it better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
euthe Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 This REALLY bothers you about YOU never know? It's four repititions of two couplets of I don't care anymore x2. 16 times. Hardly on the scale of a live "Misunderstood". It seems as though you are looking for reasons to be discontent. If they finished One Wing with a guitar freakout you would complain that guitar solos are lazy songwriting tools are you would complain that Jay could have done it better. The repetitive "nothing" is annoying too. There is a theme to wta and it's repetitive. Not much depth. Jay definitely could sculpt a record with more depth. Nels can destroy a solo and Jay was no slouch himself. Jay is sorely missed in wilco recording sessions and there's no way around it. To my ears the post Jay freakouts seem like...well freakouts...whereas the freakouts with Jay engineering were intricately orchestrated and melodic masterpieces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 The repetitive "nothing" is annoying too. There is a theme to wta and it's repetitive. Not much depth. You really don't get wilco, do you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i'm only sleeping Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I love the way that Jeff's and Feist's voices are synchronized all along the supposedly cheesy song, EXCEPT when they sing “are misconstrued”, with Feist delay (misconstruing?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I really think that's part of the problem. Jeff ripping on guitar? I wish he'd go back to ripping folk guitar instead of trying to be someone he's not. You are all kinds of ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Jeff ripping on guitar? I wish he'd go back to ripping folk guitar instead of trying to be someone he's not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 This REALLY bothers you about YOU never know? It's four repititions of two couplets of I don't care anymore x2. 16 times. Hardly on the scale of a live "Misunderstood". It seems as though you are looking for reasons to be discontent. If they finished One Wing with a guitar freakout you would complain that guitar solos are lazy songwriting tools are you would complain that Jay could have done it better. Yes. When actually listening to the song, it DOES really bother me. I know you're not suggesting You Never Know is on the level of Misunderstood. 'Cause that would really be silly. (You're not are you. ) To me, Wilco's work from A.M. to A Ghost is Born is almost unquestionable...it really seemed that with each effort (including Mermaid and b-sides and work in other bands), Jeff and the band were really striving for something great and/or special and/or thrilling and/or fun. Sky Blue Sky was a very worthy effort, though I got a tiny sense that they were taking the foot off the throttle a bit. With W(TA), the foot is mostly off the throttle and set to cruise control. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. For me, the record kind of sounds like a sampler of Wilco's various sounds. Unfortuantely, most of the time I've heard them do better versions of these sounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 What's the consensus on this thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Meh. In this thread the foot is mostly off the throttle and set to cruise control. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. For me, this thread kind of sounds like a sampler of VC's various personalities. Unfortuantely, most of the time I've seen users do better versions of these personalities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiatortunes Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Meh. In this thread the foot is mostly off the throttle and set to cruise control. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. For me, this thread kind of sounds like a sampler of VC's various personalities. Unfortuantely, most of the time I've seen users do better versions of these personalities. :veryclever wish I had written that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I don't like when people say negative things about Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Meh. In this thread the foot is mostly off the throttle and set to cruise control. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. For me, this thread kind of sounds like a sampler of VC's various personalities. Unfortuantely, most of the time I've seen users do better versions of these personalities. I agree. Which in my case means I end up defending the band and sounding like a sycophant, when in real life I'm mostly cynical and jaded about almost everything. (but not about you) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 (but not about you)This is from a Wilco song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
willywoody Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 What's the consensus on this thread? People like it. People don't like it. People get offended. Same old same old. If it wasn't so late on the east coast I'd throw it on again and either enjoy it or get really pissed. Can't decide which would happen, but likely the latter. Different strokes...etc,etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Theremin Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Great: Bull Black Nova (my favourite), Deeper Down, One Wing, Country DissapearedGood: Solitaire, Sonny Feeling, Everlasting EverythingMeh: Wilco (The Song), You & I, You Never Know, Dark Neon Annoyingly bland: I'll Fight So that makes it a solid effort: better than A.M., at about the same level as Summerteeth and maybe Sky Blue Sky, though not as good as the remaining 3 releases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Great: Solitaire, BBN, Unlikely JapanGood: Wilco (The Song), You & IMeh: Deeper Down, One Wing, Sonny Feeling, I'll Fight, Jolly BankerBland: Country Disappeared, Everlasting Everything, Dark Neon, You Never Know Better than AM, worse than SBS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i'm only sleeping Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Great: Solitaire, BBN, Unlikely JapanGood: Wilco (The Song), You & IMeh: Deeper Down, One Wing, Sonny Feeling, I'll Fight, Jolly BankerBland: Country Disappeared, Everlasting Everything, Dark Neon, You Never Know Better than AM, worse than SBS. Great: Deeper Down, One Wing,Country Disappeared, Wilco (The Song,)Everlasting Everything, Solitaire, BBN, Unlikely JapanGood: I'll Fight, Jolly Banker, You & IMeh: Sonny Feeling, Dark Neon, You Never Know Better than most music from SBS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
larryt Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 the 'you and I' duet is pretty weak............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Alan Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 at about the same level as Summerteeth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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