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Seems like everyone here hates the guy but count me in as a fan for over 25 years. It's been a roller-coaster ride to say the least but the voice and the songs always outweighed the behavior for me. Not anymore, obviously.

 

I received a cancellation of the pre-order for his new album ("Due to unforeseen circumstances") in my Inbox yesterday and it hit me hard how profoundly sad this whole thing is for all involved. I hope Ryan can get the help he needs, make amends, and truly apologize to those he has harmed. 

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I'm worried about Ryan. I hope that he gets the help that he needs. This is, of course, not an excuse for terrible behavior. 

 

It'll be hard for me to put on any of his albums any time soon, that's for sure. What a shame.

 

Agreed.

 

I am naive i suppose, but i have such a hard time understanding how someone could write the most personal songs that seem to tap perfectly into the emotional states we all share, yet didn't have the awareness of how his behavior was affecting the ones he supposedly "loved"? A shame indeed. 

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Agreed.

 

I am naive i suppose, but i have such a hard time understanding how someone could write the most personal songs that seem to tap perfectly into the emotional states we all share, yet didn't have the awareness of how his behavior was affecting the ones he supposedly "loved"? A shame indeed. 

I read this RS article a couple of hours ago. A stretch, perhaps, but something to possibly consider:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ryan-adams-abuse-me-too-songs-lyrics-796686/

 

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I read this RS article a couple of hours ago. A stretch, perhaps, but something to possibly consider:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ryan-adams-abuse-me-too-songs-lyrics-796686/

 

 

Worth writing/reading, but a stretch (agree with you). The author's take on Nobody Girl is not mine - I always thought the narrator was the Nobody Girl's internal monologue anyway...

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Ryan is trying to stage his comeback. Something I noticed his Instagram went from 600k followed down to 35k followers. I’m

Curious to see how this plays out.

My guess is “not well”.

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It's really disappointing to see so many positive replies to his tweets. Though, not surprising, even at Solid Sound I saw a number of people in Ryan Adams tshirts. It's especially disconcerting that he hasn't apologized or done anything to suggest he's seeked help or done anything to correct his behavior. He's essentially saying "believe women ........but not these women". There's too much good music out there to spend any time listening to someone like Ryan Adams. Just go away. 

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It's really disappointing to see so many positive replies to his tweets. Though, not surprising, even at Solid Sound I saw a number of people in Ryan Adams tshirts. It's especially disconcerting that he hasn't apologized or done anything to suggest he's seeked help or done anything to correct his behavior. He's essentially saying "believe women ........but not these women". There's too much good music out there to spend any time listening to someone like Ryan Adams. Just go away.

Bingo

 

I agree he needs to go away. I’m watching because this is like a car wreck and I can’t look away. The only way in my opinion he could stage a comeback is to take full responsibility, apologize to all the women he hurt and show he has changed. Until then don’t see it working. He seems so narcissistic with all these new posts

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Bingo

 

I agree he needs to go away. I’m watching because this is like a car wreck and I can’t look away. The only way in my opinion he could stage a comeback is to take full responsibility, apologize to all the women he hurt and show he has changed. Until then don’t see it working. He seems so narcissistic with all these new posts

For sure. It was so disappointing to read that tweet, but not at all surprising.

 

I appreciate that Cold Roses helped get my through senior year of high school, and Easy Tiger helped soothe my first real break up, but I can’t support an abuser, so I won’t listen to him again or give him my money by going to shows.

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 There's too much good music out there to spend any time listening to someone like Ryan Adams. Just go away. 

 

Not defending his alleged behavior in the slightest but....go away where exactly? The guy makes music and performs live for a living. Where is he supposed to go exactly? Change his name and move to Siberia? Give up on his whole career? I'm genuinely curious what he could do that would make anyone happy? For me, it would be discussing the allegations in detail from his perspective and making amends with the woman, but i don't expect that to happen and most wouldn't be happy with that anyway. Is it really that he's just done professionally forever? I was looking forward to hearing from him about the story but whatever he's up to since Saturday isn't playing well at all, and i was one willing to hear him out.   

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Call me harsh but.... Ryan Adams is not entitled to a career. Performing in theatres and releasing records is a privilege and until he does make amends (which I don't know how you do that when you're being accused of sexting a child but definitely he could start by apologizing to Phoebe, Mandy, etc directly), yes, I feel like it's not unreasonable to expect him to just disappear and go wherever these me too'd guys go. It's not like he's been making minimum wage for the past 20 years, I'm sure he can live a comfortable life outside of the public eye. 

As it is, I can't imagine too many promoters wanting to book him, I don't think anyone would want to play with him and I can't see any notable record label releasing his albums any time soon. But who knows, maybe the general public is more forgiving than I am. 

This whole situation just sucks. Cold Roses was one of my all time favourites. I spent my 30th birthday at his last Vancouver show. His music was played at my wedding reception. But fuck him, he's ruined it. His music is tainted now and I don't see how he can fix that. 

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