Irony

[caliber66]

‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ study already under fire

Some GOP lawmakers contend the Pentagon’s report is biased

 

Link

 

For the record, I don't intend this to be a discussion of the merits of "don't ask, don't tell". I just found the irony of the sub-headline to be kinda delicious.

[Atticus]

why do you hate teh gays?

 

and what kind of name is Jeh Johnson?

[caliber66]

I don't hate the gays, of course (not any more than I hate anyone). If I had to guess, I would say Jeh is short for Jehosephat.

 

Anyone who wants to is welcome to post other examples of (real) irony. Those who don't know the difference and post Alanis irony will be banned and forced to go live in Big Perm's basement. I have moderator backing on this.

[jff]

Wait, what? This is the headline I'm getting from that link:

 

China’s dwarf theme park: ‘Zoo’ or ‘fairy tale’?

[caliber66]

Huh. I still get:

 

‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ study already under fire

Some GOP lawmakers contend the Pentagon’s report is biased

 

WASHINGTON - The leaders of a new Pentagon study promised Congress on Wednesday an honest assessment on whether allowing gays to serve openly might cause troops to lose their edge in battle.

 

"Military readiness and effectiveness must retain primacy here," said Gen. Carter Ham, head of U.S. Army Forces Europe and a co-leader of the study.

 

"That is what you expect of us, that's what the nation expects of us," Ham told a House panel.

 

Wednesday's hearing was the opening salvo in a yearlong debate at the Pentagon and in Congress on whether and how the nation should repeal the 17-year-old law that bans service members from acknowledging they are gay or engaging in homosexual behavior.

 

Democrats praised the initiative but said they won't wait for the results, which are due Dec. 1. More than a dozen senators introduced legislation on Wednesday that would repeal the law and prohibit discrimination against service members on the basis of sexual orientation.

 

"They're ready for it and we're ready for it," said Minnesota Democratic Sen. Al Franken.

 

Rep. Susan Davis, one of 189 cosponsors of House legislation to repeal the ban, said she is confident the Pentagon review will conclude that changes to the law are necessary.

 

"I would ask those who oppose repeal to join us on the right side of history," said Davis, who chairs the House Armed Services personnel subcommittee.

 

Change is inevitable?

President Barack Obama has vowed to end the policy, but needs Congress' blessing and faces resistance from some influential military leaders who say a repeal could hurt morale and impact a unit's effectiveness.

 

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said that changes to the policy are probably inevitable and that the military should chart a way forward that minimizes the impact on troops.

 

Last month, Gates called for a sweeping internal study to be led by Ham and Pentagon General Legal Counsel Jeh Johnson.

 

Johnson and Ham said they planned to reach out to solicit opinions.

 

"We're asked working group members to set aside their personal opinions regarding repeal or not repeal and to go about their work in an objective comprehensive fashion," Johnson said.

 

Johnson said he expects that the review will consider all aspects of the military legal code related to "don't ask, don't tell," including rules on sodomy and oral sex.

 

The Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits sodomy and oral sex, even among consenting adults and married couples.

[jff]

Huh. I still get:

 

Now I'm getting that one, too. No idea where the fairly tale dwarf zoo article came from.

[caliber66]

I read that one this morning, too.

[Good Old Neon]

If in this example we’re defining irony as the GOP claiming bias in a situation in which they themselves are guilty of displaying bias, is it really ironic or just hypocritical? I’m not trying to be a pain in the ass (though I probably am, by default), and keep in mind I’m someone who throws the word ironic around as if I get a royalty check every time I do – though, I’m not quite at the level of Alanis.

[cryptique]

and what kind of name is Jeh Johnson?

A geh one.

 

(sorry)

[Atticus]

A geh one.

 

(sorry)

 

don't be sorry. I love you just the way you are.

[Good Old Neon]

Surely there has to be some irony (or some variation thereof )in here somewhere:

 

Roy Ashburn ARRESTED: Anti-Gay State Sen. Got DUI After Leaving Gay Nightclub, Sources Say

 

Early Wednesday morning, State Sen. Roy Ashburn (R-Calif.) was pulled over and arrested for drunk driving. Sources report that Ashburn -- a fierce opponent of gay rights -- was driving drunk after leaving a gay nightclub; when the officer stopped the state-issued vehicle, there was an unidentified man in the passenger seat of the car.

 

Ashburn has issued an apology for the incident:

 

"I am deeply sorry for my actions and offer no excuse for my poor judgment. I accept complete responsibility for my conduct and am prepared to accept the consequences for what I did. I am also truly sorry for the impact this incident will have on those who support and trust me - my family, my constituents, my friends, and my colleagues in the Senate."

 

link - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/04/roy-ashburn-arrested-anti_n_485419.html

[Atticus]

Surely there has to be some irony (or some variation thereof )in here somewhere:

 

I think it's obvious that this public servant was trying to introduce Christ into a Christless venue, and but for the agents of the state, would have personally administered Christ to the unnamed gentleman in the car.

[bleedorange]

Dan Savage had a funny comment in his advice column this week. Well, funny only if it weren't so true:

 

Here’s hoping that all straight folks everywhere one day realize that anti-gay ravers come in just two flavors: assholes who are externalizing their own internal struggles against homosexual desires (Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, Charlie Crist, Joseph Ratzinger, et al.) and assholes who are attempting to compensate for and/or draw attention away from their own moral shortcomings (David Vitter, Mark Sanford, John Ensign, Vic Toews, et al.).