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50/50? Even if it sucks, it's still better than 83% of the shit out there according to statistics released by the U.S. Department of Who Gives A Shit last week...

That line of reasoning has never made any sense to me.

 

chi-town hustler: "What do you think of Wilco (the Album)?"

 

me: "I don't like it much."

 

chi-town hustler: "So? It's better than Justin Bieber's last album!"

 

me: "Well, that makes two things I'm not interested in listening to."

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with the amount of people disappointed by SBS and WTA, i am surprised that so many people still hang around this board. at what point does one give up hope on a band they used to love?

 

If the next one sucks as well.

 

Three strikes and yer out.

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Three strikes and yer out.

 

If that were the case with Bob Dylan, people would have missed some good music.

 

I don't think Wilco's next album will be anything to write home about, but I'm confident that Jeff as a creative force has more to offer the world. If this is the start of his awkward, two-decade love affair with complacency and possibly Christianity, I can hang on if it means a Time Out of Mind or a Love & Theft down the road.

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If that were the case with Bob Dylan, people would have missed some good music.

 

I don't think Wilco's next album will be anything to write home about, but I'm confident that Jeff as a creative force has more to offer the world. If this is the start of his awkward, two-decade love affair with complacency and possibly Christianity, I can hang on if it means a Time Out of Mind or a Love & Theft down the road.

 

Fair point, I was discussing Wilco and not Jeff. I'd love another Loose Fur or a Tweedy solo album over a new Wilco one at the moment. IMO there's too many members in Wilco and the result can sometimes be very bland. Too many cooks etc... I've said this here before but I much prefer pre-Cline Wilco.

 

There were so many good songs leftover from the YHF demos, they don't seem to be that prolific anymore. SBS and WTA would have been much better EPs IMO.

 

There's nothing I'd like more than a return to form and I'm not looking for another YHF/AGIB/ST/BT but I'm not holding my breath. I'll still be buying their records but I don't expect to be blown away anymore. And that's the difference, I used to be really moved by their albums and now I just feel frustrated.

 

And I draw the line at christianity or any religion for that matter :lol

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Fair point, I was discussing Wilco and not Jeff. I'd love another Loose Fur or a Tweedy solo album over a new Wilco one at the moment. IMO there's too many members in Wilco and the result can sometimes be very bland. Too many cooks etc... I've said this here before but I much prefer pre-Cline Wilco.

 

There were so many good songs leftover from the YHF demos, they don't seem to be that prolific anymore. SBS and WTA would have been much better EPs IMO.

 

There's nothing I'd like more than a return to form and I'm not looking for another YHF/AGIB/ST/BT but I'm not holding my breath. I'll still be buying their records but I don't expect to be blown away anymore. And that's the difference, I used to be really moved by their albums and now I just feel frustrated.

 

And I draw the line at christianity or any religion for that matter :lol

 

 

I dunno if they did a Zoroastrianism album, I might be intrigued.

 

 

That said, I'm not sure I can buy that Wilco will ever make another album equal to their peak. Even AGIB to me is a step below the brilliance of the Jay Bennett era of Wilco, the melodies, the arrangements have gone downhill without Bennett's genius. The lyrics, well, that wouldn't matter if Jay was there or if he wasn't, but I feel like the music quality has gone down a bit without Jay.

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with the amount of people disappointed by SBS and WTA, i am surprised that so many people still hang around this board. at what point does one give up hope on a band they used to love?

:lol I still eagerly look forward to every release by R.E.M., and I haven't loved any album they've put out since 1986.

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with the amount of people disappointed by SBS and WTA, i am surprised that so many people still hang around this board. at what point does one give up hope on a band they used to love?

 

What's all this business about "used to" love? Just because you don't love the new stuff doesn't mean you stop loving the old stuff. I don't "used to love" Wilco, I just "used to love" their new releases.

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I dunno if they did a Zoroastrianism album, I might be intrigued.

 

 

That said, I'm not sure I can buy that Wilco will ever make another album equal to their peak. Even AGIB to me is a step below the brilliance of the Jay Bennett era of Wilco, the melodies, the arrangements have gone downhill without Bennett's genius. The lyrics, well, that wouldn't matter if Jay was there or if he wasn't, but I feel like the music quality has gone down a bit without Jay.

 

Well maybe I might give that Zoroastrian one a listen too, it is one of the more interesting sects even for an agnostic/atheist like myself!

 

I'm not saying they ain't gonna make another record equal to their peak, I just don't think they're gonna do one soon, especially with this line-up. I respect the Bennet era being your favourite, for me it's YHF-AGIB. I don't necessarily want those records again but I do want to be streched once more, however that is done. I don't care if something is played superbly by a band or not, it's the spirit or passion of it that gets me.

 

There's so many ideas in those Loose Fur records or even Chelsea Walls, I'd love a little more of this side to Jeff to come out. I'm sure it will when he wants a break from Wilco.

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I'm a big fan of WTA and continue to be baffled by all the hate it receives. However, they do need to take a different tack on the new album to keep things fresh -- whether that means more tempo, more anger, more edge, more experimentation, more O'Rourke, more RAWK -- whatever. No need for them to be apologetic about WTA at all, but they shouldn't do another one just like it.

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I'm a big fan of WTA and continue to be baffled by all the hate it receives. However, they do need to take a different tack on the new album to keep things fresh -- whether that means more tempo, more anger, more edge, more experimentation, more O'Rourke, more RAWK -- whatever. No need for them to be apologetic about WTA at all, but they shouldn't do another one just like it.

they've never made "another one just like" the previous one so I'm not too worried about that.

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What's all this business about "used to" love? Just because you don't love the new stuff doesn't mean you stop loving the old stuff. I don't "used to love" Wilco, I just "used to love" their new releases.

 

so did you regularly frequent the Dylan board in the long drought between what you considered crap and redemption?

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