Mr. Heartbreak Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I agree that they are meaningless, but I wonder if the same thing happened in all 50 states in 2004 or even 2008? I think it is a testament to the far-right media that they have so successfully demonized Obama that people truly believe he is a socialist/communist/secret Kenyan, etc. who is out to destroy America. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Guy Who Started Alabama's Secession Petition Mostly Just Wants His Topless Car Wash Back Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I love the fact that the southern states get more back from the feds than they pay in federal taxes. Strange isn't it that the red states want out and want less government when they are the recipients of more than the states in the west, northeast or midwest. Let them go and all our taxes will go down. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Guy Who Started Alabama's Secession Petition Mostly Just Wants His Topless Car Wash Back Does he blame the federal government for this? Does he realize that even after seceding, the same local government would still shut him down? Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Does he blame the federal government for this? Does he realize that even after seceding, the same local government would still shut him down? careful, someone might infer that you are smug, or that you are refusing to listen to a differing opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Does he blame the federal government for this? Does he realize that even after seceding, the same local government would still shut him down? There is no rationalization here. The guy is angry. And probably not very sophisticated. (Both points are really very obvious). In the past, Secessionists have been fringe dwelling nuts. Now, things are...different. Still on the fringe, still nutty...but now getting attention. Positive attention...negative attention...but attention all the same. Just remember, these divisions in American society have existed from the beginning. At times of great stress and turmoil, what were considered fringe elements became mainstream. The Great Depression led to a flowering of the influence of the progressive elements that ultimately led to (among other things) the end of de jure segregation and a changing of the public psyche with respect to race relations. Not saying that we are seeing the beginning of a great separation; just saying that you ignore or ridicule these 'movements' at you own risk. People find common cause and they find other items of common ground. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I think I can safely ignore the secessionist "movement." Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 There is no rationalization here. The guy is angry. And probably not very sophisticated. (Both points are really very obvious). In the past, Secessionists have been fringe dwelling nuts. Now, things are...different. Still on the fringe, still nutty...but now getting attention. Positive attention...negative attention...but attention all the same. Just remember, these divisions in American society have existed from the beginning. At times of great stress and turmoil, what were considered fringe elements became mainstream. The Great Depression led to a flowering of the influence of the progressive elements that ultimately led to (among other things) the end of de jure segregation and a changing of the public psyche with respect to race relations. Not saying that we are seeing the beginning of a great separation; just saying that you ignore or ridicule these 'movements' at you own risk. People find common cause and they find other items of common ground.and what risk is that? Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I think I can safely ignore the secessionist "movement."Yea, give it a couple weeks and no one will speak of it again. No one can get out of the US of A once they are in. Just can't happen. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I like how the cool people on here debated it out, kept sharing articles, checked the grammar of my "edition", brought their varying perspectives into the fold. This place was my often my favorite part of the sometimes cantankerous election disputes. I hope there are a bunch of political threads going forward, I might even start a couple. As far as the election going it's a pretty done deal. Loved and locked. Link to post Share on other sites
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