bleedorange Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks for that. I don't really care for Brand too much, but that's an excellent article. I see that sentiment a lot and it always confuses me. I think he's been good in the few movies I've seen him in, and in most interviews I see him or articles like that, he always comes across as an interesting and thoughtful guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It's the voice and the look. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 If there is any good that has come from PSH death is that it sheds a light on the terrible growing heroin epidemic. My hope is that something is done about it. My fear is that this will be in the news for another day, maybe two and then forgotten about, until the next famous person dies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I've never done heroin, but it appears to be very enjoyable. Until you die. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I see that sentiment a lot and it always confuses me. I think he's been good in the few movies I've seen him in, and in most interviews I see him or articles like that, he always comes across as an interesting and thoughtful guy. Loved him in "Get Him to the Greek". Or whatever it was called. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I've never done heroin, but it appears to be very enjoyable. Until you die.Requiem For A Dream is a light-hearted romp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 While in college, I took a class in social deviancy. The instructor kept on talking about junkies using "harry-on". After he said "harry-on" a dozen times, someone asked him what he was talking about. His response was "Harry-on, harry-on, HARRY-ON!" Apparently he was trying to say "heroin". He kinda creeped me out after that outburst. And he never adjusted how he pronounced heroin. What a misfit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basil II Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 good bejeebus........I cried when I heard this..dammit!! -Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 What does a "bag of heroin" actually mean? How many highs are in a bag? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 If he had as many in his apt. as reported (around 70), they were likely $10 and/or $20 bags. Some were likely there for a couple years, as they had been out of circulation for awhile. I don't know what his current and/or dependency was but a lot of heavy users can go through 2-3 of those bags easily in a day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I only buy beer every couple weeks, maybe even once a month. I don't find it unreasonable that Mr. Hoffman treated his heroin stocking in a similar fashion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 that's not how opiates work Jules Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 that's not how opiates work JulesI would think people would know this by now. Heroin and its effects should be well known and that over time you need more to achieve the same effect. I have a friend whose son is still trying to get over the effects by being on methodone and it is taking years to even stop using that. Heroin is dirt cheap and readily available. It's a very sad and upsetting thing, but not the same as drinking a few beers or smoking a few joints. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magnetized Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I took Jules' comment to mean that maybe people stockpile their heroin just like people stockpile beer. You have a few extra dollars right now so you buy up a supply so you don't need to go out to buy it at the last minute. I agree that the nature of heroin addiction would probably indicate that people wouldn't be able to exercise that much self control and would be likely to find themselves using more when they have a ready supply, but isn't it at least theoretically possible that someone could have a lot of it lying around but still use only the same, relatively controlled, amount each day? By the way, I'm NOT saying that this would be wise, and I really have no strong opinion on the issue. I'm just asking why this wouldn't be in the realm of possibility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Same with just about any drug/booze addiction: the more you do and the longer you do it the more you need to achieve a buzz/high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 IT would make no sense for a person in recovery at whatever stage to be hording drugs like that. Some alcoholics are able to be around alcoholic beverages if someone else in the house is drinking them, but drugs seem to be a different matter. Alcohol is not illegal, but heroin is. But then again what do I know really. I don't know hardly any ex-junkys, but I know plenty of alcoholics, they are more common in my life. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Not sure what difference it makes whether an addictive substance is legal or not. Of course it makes no sense to have drugs while in recovery but he obviously was in relapse, and the amount he had makes sense. If he was an alcoholic in relapse and drank himself to death it wouldn't be surprising if a shit ton of booze was found in his apartment..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2014/02/aaron-sorkin-pens-remarkable-obituary-philip-seymour-hoffman/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think its common practice to sell/buy relatively large amounts of "bindles" of H. It makes sense from both the seller and buyers perspective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Not sure what difference it makes whether an addictive substance is legal or not. Of course it makes no sense to have drugs while in recovery but he obviously was in relapse, and the amount he had makes sense. If he was an alcoholic in relapse and drank himself to death it wouldn't be surprising if a shit ton of booze was found in his apartment..... You complete me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Not sure what difference it makes whether an addictive substance is legal or not. Of course it makes no sense to have drugs while in recovery but he obviously was in relapse, and the amount he had makes sense. If he was an alcoholic in relapse and drank himself to death it wouldn't be surprising if a shit ton of booze was found in his apartment.....I basically agree with this. But alcoholic beverages are fairly common in people's houses, particularly if you live with someone who is not on the wagon and you are. I have known plenty of folks who live with someone who is not drinking, but the other person is. Also some alcoholics can stop by a bar or restaurant where alcohol is being served and still not succumb. Clearly it would be inadvisable for someone in recovery to be hording alcohol if they lived alone. Being around any heroin or heroin users if you are in recovery would be dicey in any event. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think I'm missing your point, Lou. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You know whats funny? One of the results of our invasion of Afghanistan is the flooding of the global streets with cheap, high quality heroin. Maybe its not so funny. Btw, I live in a relatively affluent community in the midwest and its chock full of kids hopped up on H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Last night I bought 2 bags of chips. TWO fucking bags. I only open and eat one at a time though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Last night I bought 2 bags of chips. TWO fucking bags. I only open and eat one at a time though.That just indicates a lack of effort Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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