KevinG Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Got asked the question, if I was in Iowa, who would I cacus for? I am not sure, but I like Bernie Sanders, I really do, I think he has some extremely interesting policies and ideas (and many of them I really like), also I think he would win against any Republican out there. With that being said, I think he would be an ineffectual president. For the last 6 years we saw a GOP controlled congress stonewall and try to thwart Obama policies at every turn. They continually called him a socialist when his actions and policies are anything but. How do you think they are going to treat a guy who actually is a socialist? And his policies and ideas severely threaten the ideologies of the GOP. We would have another term of just this partisan bickering and nothing would get done. Bernie might say he wants to give free college to everyone, but that ain't gonna happen without an act of congress. And congress ain't gonna do that. Congress and the Senate will stand firmly in the hands of the Republicans (thank you gerrymandering). So Hillary, yes the GOP hates her too. They hate her husband, they hate her time at the State Department. They two will try to stop her at every move. However I think she has a better chance of getting things done. Her time as first lady, as senator, as Sec of State, make her extremely qualified for the job. I just don't know. How come no one has started a Via Chicago caucus. I wish I was in that room and someone could make a decent case for one of these people. Hell, someone tell me why any of the GOPers should be president. Also Iowans you suck for having you cacus so damn early. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sirius XM Progress is reporting live from within an Iowa caucus. Fascinating. Sounds a bit like a clusterfuck to be honest, albeit an incredibly polite clusterfuck. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Exactly. I think Sir Stewart caught me in a bad mood and I just decided to roll with it. Because why the hell not. Our candidates now act like they are youtube commenters or posting on message boards. Sir Stewart's comment was the equivalent of something Donald Trump would say. Never really explaining or actually putting any thought into it. Not to say my prediction was an super cogent article or anything, but it was something. But that what the race has become. One line statements with no facts or thought. But whatever, I am the dick. And, also, you were at least 50% wrong. Hillary and Trump, by wide margins. These are both gonna be so wrong. Actually I forgot about the "wide margins" prediction. You were 100% wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sir Stewart's comment was the equivalent of something Donald Trump would say. At least we'll always have this. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 I find myself rooting for Trump based on my hopeful belief that he would never be elected. Nevertheless, I can't wait to see him respond to losing. I loved Carson's speech which started with Joseph Stalin. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Interesting results, not the way I thought it would turn out, but hey, not afraid to admit that. I guess leave it to others to gloat. Trump actually lost by a lot. Just a couple thousand away from Rubio. I think we will now see Trump falter a bit. New Hampshire will become interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if Rubio finished strong. I doubt he can win, but another 3 place would keep him going. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Trump did not fuck up his concession speech the way I hoped/believed he could. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I don't know why everyone is so surprised about Cruz. I called him winning Iowa on this forum two months ago. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Rubio's team has been touting a 3-2-1 plan -- 3rd in Iowa, 2nd in New Hampshire & 3rd in South Carolina. He's well on track. The democratic side is going to be fun for the next few weeks. I still don't see Bernie getting traction nationwide, but he's going to make Hillary work for the nomination. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Cruz? Ew. Well, at least he'll keep the win in Iowa, lose the nomination streak alive. Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I heard that it was a record night for republican voter. Something like 60,000 more than ever before. Anyone know what the democrats numbers were? Historically speaking Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I heard that it was a record night for republican voter. Something like 60,000 more than ever before. Anyone know what the democrats numbers were? Historically speakingRobust but less than 2008 Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 coin tosses?and Hillary goes 4 for 4? ugh. it is the NY Daily News, so take this w/ a grain of salt but it sounds legit. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/coin-toss-decides-clinton-sanders-tie-iowa-precinct-article-1.2517022 Dueling Democrats Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders are running a dead heat in the Iowa caucus, with coin tosses solving ties in numerous precincts.Ties reported in Polk, Jasper, Cedar and Johnson Counties were solved with a flip of a coin, as allowed by the Iowa Democratic Party. In each instance, chance favored Clinton as the victor. Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 i found this funny. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 It really is her destiny!!!' Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 actual footage of the coin toss: Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 coin tosses? and Hillary goes 4 for 4? ugh. The story I read said that there were 6 coin tosses and Hillary won them all. There's a 1 in 64 chance of that happening. This all just goes to show that money really does decide elections in America. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 How droll! Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 That's a crazy way to do things ---- can't they just call it a tie and move on? Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 That's a crazy way to do things ---- can't they just call it a tie and move on?That would work in precincts with an even number of delegates, but they are awarded proportionally, so they have to have some kind of tie breaker to determine who gets the extra delegate in a precinct with an odd number. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 So "a win" is merely an indicator of momentum, while the delegates won help the candidate's progress towards a numeric win? I guess what I'm wondering is if Clinton's win is symbolic while her delegates puts her an almost negligible one ahead of Sanders? Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 my daughter had 5 poopy diapers yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 So "a win" is merely an indicator of momentum, while the delegates won help the candidate's progress towards a numeric win? I guess what I'm wondering is if Clinton's win is symbolic while her delegates puts her an almost negligible one ahead of Sanders? It really is how you spin it. Ben Carson said his campaign has never been stronger. Really you say last night was a win for Bernie. He came pretty close to defeating Hillary. He has the momentum. A 3rd place for Rubio is gonna rocket him up to the top. The Iowa caucus mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. You can ask President Rick Santorum for more information on that. Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 my daughter had 5 poopy diapers yesterday. how many coins did you find? Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The Iowa caucus mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. You can ask President Rick Santorum for more information on that. Or Presidents Carter, Bush (43) and Obama. Are they predictive? No. Meaningless? Hell no. I am, of course, biased. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
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