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I think he does not want to release them because they don't match up with what he has been saying. Income is lower, income is sheltered in foreign investments/structures, contributions are not as great Ashe has said and to organizations that are not approved of by republicans. In other words they may expose him as a fraud. This won't dissuade the true believers but it might have an effect on the undecided.

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Hillary is going to destroy him in the debates.

 Probably, but it wont really matter. 

 

From Charles Blow today: 

“Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.”

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I'd say it's actually a good rule of thumb to assume they're lying when considering any candidate during election season. Trump isn't going to build a wall, Sanders isn't going to everyone a free ride on the backs of the rich and Hillary isn't going to take on Wall Street.

Yep.  However, Sanders believes his lies and will fight for his agenda, whereas Trump and Clinton are just saying shit to win the prize at the talent show.

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Free college for everyone is far crazier and more unfeasible than building a wall.....Sanders's agenda is horrible. Venezuela North.

Well it's more expensive than a wall, but might just have a few more benefits. As for countries that commit these public higher ed atrocities you can also look at Germany, France, Finland and Norway and then look into their scoring on the human development index. Not too scary.

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Free college for everyone is far crazier and more unfeasible than building a wall.

While I tend to agree that free college is generally unfeasible, it is not crazier or impractical than the wall.

 

The wall is rooted in rasicism and xenophobia, and it's function goes against the central idea of our country. And if accomplished would do nothing.

 

Whereas free education is rooted hope and betterment of our nation and if accomplished would have a lasting effect on our nation. Also other developed countries offer free college, no other country has built a wall to the extent that Trump is purposing.

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Yeah, that Venezuela comment was off the cuff, but it stuck in my academic craw. How can you be a wall apologist and make vague allusions to communist scaries? Remember that one famous wall in Berlin?

 

Jingoist, draconian domestic policy aside Venezuela's biggest economic problems are rooted in "drill baby drill" short sightedness and shortages caused by hostile protectionist trade policies. You know who has echoed that kind of approach? "Make America Great Again" himself.

 

Incidentally, for someone with that world view, when exactly was America great?

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Bullshit.

But...but...he's a doctor.

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Don't you know that Mexico is paying for the wall? Maybe Bernie can get Mexico to pay for college? El Chapo Scholarship program.....

 

Seriously, who will get free tuition? US citizens? Undocumented? Who is paying for this? Who decides on what the tuition will be? 

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If a "free college tuition" plan was ever enacted, it must include rigorous qualification requirements. The idea that everyone should go to college must be abandoned. Not everyone should go to college. Some won't be successful for academic reasons, others for motivational reasons, others for self-disciplinary reasons, and some will not succeed because college just isn't for them. When you are financing it yourself, sure, go ahead and give it a shot if you want, it's your money. But when the taxpayers are financing it, you need to show that you are not a risk and are likely to succeed. The tuition plan must also include vocational and technical certification programs, not just university degrees. Also, for profit "colleges", cannot be eligible. The institutions themselves must pass rigorous requirements to get the tax dollars.

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