Winston Legthigh Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Woody Guthrie's landlord was Donald Trump's dad. Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I don't believe that I could remain friends with someone once I found out that they consider Sarah Palin a serious politician that needs to be running the country. I can't imagine having enough in common with a person as described above to even want to become or be their friend prior to knowing about their Palin love. I wouldn't even consider someone like that an acquaintance, other than in the most literal sense, as in, "Yes. I know that idiot, so technically, I am acquainted with them". In all seriousness, are you really friends with them? And if so, how (and why) do you do it?I live in a very conservative area. One person I know travels any time he and his wife have the opportunity to hear her speak. They've gone up to 1,000 miles to hear her talk. Other than being very far apart on politics these are very nice people whose kids grew up with my kids. My sis in law said that she would seriously consider voting for Palin for president. Right now her and her husband are solidly behind Cruz and Trump who both make total sense to them. It's kind of weird because in 2000 some tea party types ( before the actual t party. These were no compromise take no prisoners types who steam rolled anyone who got in their way) took over the county board, and the republican and democrat parties worked together to put forth a slate of canfidates (D&R) to get those clowns out. Now all offices in the county are held by Republicans and the Tea Party way of thinking is the dominant way of thinking. Things changed pretty quick. Edit... The only people I shut out or shut down are the ones who can't string two sentences together without bringing up how much they hate Obama, or how liberals have f'd up this or that. There's only a few who exhale their politics with every breath so I don't shut out many people. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Rumor is Elizabeth Warren is jumping on the Bernie ticket as vp. That'd be cool. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Rumor is Elizabeth Warren is jumping on the Bernie ticket as vp. That'd be cool. If that were true there would be little foreign policy experience on the ticket. The knock against both Bernie and Warren is they have no foreign policy experience. At this point it is only speculation, VP are not picked until the nominations are wrapped up. Also I don't think she would actually do it (either for Bernie or Hillary). She is an incredible voice in the Senate and would not be tied to the agenda of the president. It would be a poor move for her politically. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 All good points. I was thinking if it came to pass it might mute some of her efficacy, as vps don't seem to truly do all that much. Nonetheless, symbolically she would help make a ticket that would take on corporate America at a historic level. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Sanders/Clinton '16 Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Could a socialist and a moderate work together? Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/25/464351410/grand-jury-indicts-anti-abortion-activists-who-made-undercover-videos So remember when a bunch of politicians jumped all over Planned Parenthood because of a video? Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 yeah, and our idiot governor is undeterred. it's like living in an old Daily Show sketch Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/25/464351410/grand-jury-indicts-anti-abortion-activists-who-made-undercover-videos So remember when a bunch of politicians jumped all over Planned Parenthood because of a video? Im going to guess that the coverage of this in the right wing media will be minimal to non-existent. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Im going to guess that the coverage of this in the right wing media will be minimal to non-existent.Seems to be their M.O. something goes against their narrative pretend it does not exist. Looking at you Iran prisoner release. I wonder what Fiorina has to say about this. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 How was the debate last night? Although I am a Bernie supporter I am so tempted to vote for O'Malley. (depending on how it is going by the time our primary comes around.) LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 How was the debate last night? Although I am a Bernie supporter I am so tempted to vote for O'Malley. (depending on how it is going by the time our primary comes around.) LouieB There was a debate last night? Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the worst DNC chair. She is such a shill for Clinton. If the Republicans win the White House most of the blame will go to her. Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 it was a CNN town hall discussion with each individual separately. Clinton had a little over an hour, sanders had an hour and I think o'malley had like 30 minutes. :/I kind of like O'Malley. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's a pretty reasonable guy. I keep saying I love the alternate universe where the election is O'Malley vs. Kasich. That could be a levelheaded election year. Also I think being a governor has more in common with being president than being a senator. Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I think being a governor has more in common with being president than being a senator.So George W. Bush > Al Gore and John KerrySarah Palin > Barack ObamaMitt Romney > Barack ObamaJeb Bush > Hillary Clinton Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So George W. Bush > Al Gore and John KerrySarah Palin > Barack ObamaMitt Romney > Barack ObamaJeb Bush > Hillary Clinton More in common does not mean better than, or greater than. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 yeah, and our idiot governor is undeterred. it's like living in an old Daily Show sketch Yes. The response from Abbott, Patrick, and other state politicians has been amazing and ridiculous. I just can't tell if it's willful ignorance or simple pandering or something else entirely. Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So George W. Bush > Al Gore and John KerrySarah Palin > Barack ObamaMitt Romney > Barack ObamaJeb Bush > Hillary Clinton Jesse "The Body" Ventura > JFK Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Arnold Schwarzenegger > Abraham Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Out of our 44 Presidents, only 17 (18 if you count Clevland twice) have previously held the office of governor http://governors.rutgers.edu/on-governors/us-governors/governors-and-the-white-house/governors-who-became-president. Of those 17 men it is a mix bag on how "great" or their effectiveness was as President. There were some truly great Presidents (FDR, Teddy, Jefferson) some truly terrible (GWB, Andrew Johnson) and the rest meh. So the notion that a governor makes a great, good, or acceptable president because of executive office experience really does not ring true. And is further shown by the Terrible Governor > Great President lines you all have been spewing. The one thing that is true that there never has been a president who has only come from the private sector (ie no political or military command experience). Link to post Share on other sites
Chez Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Rod Blagojevich > George Washington Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Rod Blagojevich > George WashingtonArnold Schwarzenegger > Abraham Lincolni was gonna use Lincoln but he was never a senator Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 i was gonna use Lincoln but he was never a senatoroh sure, but just laugh at the George Washington entry. I see how you are. Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 i was laughing at my mental image of Rod's hair and never got past the '>' Link to post Share on other sites
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