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Richmond Fontaine - alt country/punk. Willy Vlautins voice sounds as if he is going to break down and cry any second...

hmm, pretty nice stuff from what i've found online (not much )

I am also gutted about the Wilco show. They better play twice as long next time!

what? 5 hours?! They'll have to give me a seat if they want to play that long!

I've tried some searches, and browsed the first 5 or so pages of threads and it would seem that a large amount of my favourite current bands have never been mentioned here. In some respects that isn't terribly surprising as they aren't very Wilco-like, on the other hand though if you're interested in something different then these bands are definitely for you...

Boris - a Japanese Rock/Metal band. They're all over the place with their records genre-wise, from Hardcore Punk to Classic Rock to Drone/Ambient. An obvious starting point would be Pink as it covers most of that ground within one album.

Opeth - a Swedish Progressive Death Metal band. Seriously. While the words "progressive" and "death metal" will surely put most people off, but Opeth deserve to be heard by a wider audience. They have some of the catchiest riffs and some of the most beautiful acoustic guitar work you'll ever hear, mixed in with some seriously heavy stuff. The albums Still Life and Blackwater Park mark the highpoint of their career.

Ulver - a Norwegian schizophrenic band. While generally changing genre for each new album and moving between such extremes as Traditional Folk, Black Metal and Trip-Hop, they always seem to produce quality. Their latest effort, Shadow's of the Sun, is their most mellow. Their leader singer, Garm, also fronted Avant-Garde band Arcturus and it's well worth looking up their The Sham Mirrors album.

Songs from the Black Hole is no better than any of their recent offerings, truth be told.

I was a huge Weezer fan for a period, and downloaded all the bootlegs. "Summer Songs 2000" was also revered for quite a time. One thing's for certain, Rivers has a HUGE catalogue of decent unreleased material. I'm not sure that much of it could be classified as vital though.

There's no good reason not to talk about the tour cancellation, heck some fans might not even know about it, so this topic should really be stickied until the date of the last cancelled show.

Anyway, the deal is that Wilco have cancelled:

2nd Nov Manchester

3rd Nov Birmingham

4th Nov Newcastle

5th Nov London

The official word is:

'We are sorry to announce that due to a scheduling conflict we've had to cancel the UK portion of the November tour...We regret any inconvenience this causes and hope to schedule new UK dates soon.'

I've said it before: it sucks for you all that these shows are cancelled. Honestly, no one's trying to make you feel worse about it.

no, but there are a large amount of people who for some reason (extreme fanboyism?) cannot accept that Wilco are even slightly in the wrong.

I like Wilco's music n all, but I owe them nothing, and so I'll speak my mind when they shit on me. If you make a commitment you should stick to it, especially when it's the people that pay your wages that you're gonna piss off. The *only* reason that I'd accept without issue would be "personal reasons". I'd also accept "exhaustion" or illness/injury if it came with a promise to reinstate the gigs within 6 months or so. Anything else is just plain insulting.

@ gogo

true enough, but it'll cost me

Unfair,who the hell are you?Wilco owes you nothing, and no real explanation.You get your money back,it's not like they stold your car and kicked your dog. Shows are canceled all the time, I've had it happen.

Well, actually WIlco owe me a show since I paid them

they've played Hamburg, 8 times. The most recent show was earlier this year, 2007-05-25.

8 times?! Maybe i'm moving to the right city then

That's an unfair characterization of the actual explanation given, inadequate though it was.

Perhaps, but it's unfair of Wilco to give such a lame reason for cancelling shows without at least promising some kind of replacement tour.

There aren't many lines of business where it's seen as acceptable to treat your customers in this way...

some of the UK folks might not realize this, but the week following the Dublin shows is Thanksgiving here. It's a big deal for families in America, and from what I recall, Wilco has traditionally been home in Chicago for that. So even if they were able to re-schedule those shows for that next week based on the venues' schedules, it's not like they've got a full month before Christmas to squeeze those in and get home to their families. It would be a major decision for them to decide to forego their Thanksgivings to do those shows. And I'm not saying that's what happened, or that was even a possibility, it's just one more wrinkle in the rescheduling issue.

wtf?

No, I hadn't thought about Thanksgiving as a possible excuse, and I can't believe anyone could see it as such. There are FOUR months between the last gig in November and their first gigs in Australia next year. FOUR MONTHS. The UK tour would have taken them one week, or two if they wanted to do some sight seeing.

Anyway, a rescheduling wouldn't help me as, like I said earlier, I'm leaving the country. Do they ever play Hamburg?

This is a wind-up, right?

are you trying to make me more mad? No, no wind up here, just a frustrated, pissed off fan.

I love that Glenn can be bothered to play on Bird's under-card, but can't be bothered to tour the UK any more. That man's got his priorities right.

/sarcasm

Hi all, I've just found out that the show (in Manchester) is cancelled. It it weren't for me telling a friend "you could come too", who then attempted to get a ticket, I would have in all probability turned up for the gig on Friday. My brother bought me my ticket straight from the Academy box office (yay no booking fees or postage), so no emails for me.

So I just turned up here to look for reasons for the cancellation and any further news, but it seems there's nothing here but a weak explanation and a bunch of antagonising douchebag Americans. Cheers guys.

I feel sick at this news. Seeing Wilco for the first ever time was the one gig I'd been looking forward to in the past year. I'd even put off starting a new job (in Germany) to hang around in the north-west an extra week to see them. There are so many expletives that I want to use.

To top it all off we get some weak-ass "We can make more money on this other schedule, than playing to you English bozos" excuse. Way to treat your fans. Heck, they charged enough in the first place for a ticket ($50)! Who do they think they are? U2? Yes it would have been worth it, but that isn't the point.

I'll tell you what good manners are; a rather famous singer had told us that he was going to come buy some art from us last week. He was rushed to hospital for surgery on a brain tumour the day before the appointment, but still managed to relay a message saying that he wouldn't be able to make it. I mean schedule (money) vs. life and death, and they still haven't bothered to address their fans a week on from the cancellation.

I've only been a Wilco fan for the past year, and I've seen people on this thread say how great they are to their fans, but I'm not seeing it...

Just a quick question:

when they play Less Than You Think live, are the ten minutes of feedback included or not?

Do you think I could get a copy of the leaked Hail to the Thief? I have been looking for this for years.

If you go onto soulseek and search for "radiohead" search amongst the results for versions of the album with The Gloaming 4:22 long and I Will 2:24 long. That will be the advance version. There's a surprisingly large amount of such copies kicking around.

Less than you think just cuts out earlier. That's really the only difference there.

and my edit of it cuts out at 3:22. Much better! When I want to hear ten plus minutes of feedback I'll listen to Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music.

there's a 7 minute version of handshake drugs? gimme!!

i have a bunch of advance albums that are quite different to the final ones actually...

Daft Punk - Discovery

Radiohead - Hail to the Thief

Beck - Guero

Bjork - Vespertine

Pitchfork often love originality over music. SBS is not very original. It is however quite a brave move IMO, so perhaps they'll get a few points for that?

well i'm up to track 8 and nothing has really stood out, but then i've not really been listening intently :-/

it's certainly a mellow album. probably great late evening listening, but you certainly won't be rocking out very much.

Who ripped it? There is a rip from another board, and I just want to know if it is even worth it to seek it out if I already have one (quality wise).

At a guess I'd say a bunch of people. I know I would have if I'd been online at the time

hey... although it seems a bit cheeky to me for a first post, I was wondering whether someone could pm details of where I can hear the album? I'm in the UK y'see and couldn't realistically listen to the broadcast at 4am :'(

cheers