sananguy

Andrew, you are a scholar and gentleman. This works very nicely. I'm a retard about doing anything outside standard tuning.

I've been trying to figure out Black Moon. Is the second change F/Am? Here's what I have:

Verse:

Am - F/Am - D - F/Am

Chorus:

C...then what? F/something?

"I don't think people dislike it, I think it didn't meet their expectations."

Can't think of a better way to say it. I was hoping for something pithy, but as a whole, it's not. I've seen comparisons to Summerteeth and I can see some musical similarities, but there's no "She's A Jar", "How To Fight Lonliness", "Shot In The Arm" or "Via Chicago" here. Save "One Sunday Morning" none of the songs make me feel anything. That's what Wilco did for me, and has failed to do since AGIB. As much as Jeff Tweedy denies it, again, the cliched "tortured artist" produced his best work. How selfish of me to say that, but out of the crucible rose almost tangible music. I fear there will be no more "Poor Places" or "Wishful Thinking".

For me anyway, Wilco has fallen into the same category as so many other artists who had their period of genius, then evolved into something I wanted to hang onto, but ultimately couldn't.

I came back to Via Chicago looking for a reason to buy the new Wilco. I used to be obsessed with them.....until SBS, which was "pleasant enough", but hardly what I had fallen so hopelessly in love with. Then came WTA, another "pleasant" disappointment, albeit an impressive display of Tweedy's ability to reproduce what he paid homage to.

Wilco had, for the most part, fallen off the map for me. I still hear them whenever my iPod decides it's time for a reminder, but wasn't even aware they had a new record coming out. Then I heard "I Might" on Radio Paradise (what a god send that is), not really taken with it, but piquing my curiosity about what was on the way. After reading this thread, I'll take the plunge. If, as some of you say, it's their best since YHF and AGIB, I'll be thrilled to agree with you. I'm skeptical it could match either of those two, but it doesn't have to. It just needs to be better than SBS and WTA.

have you listened to summerteeth? that's pop.

 

keep listening to the album though. it's a grower for sure.

Very familiar with Summerteeth. Some of it is pop, but my favorite stuff on there is not....She's a Jar, Via Chicago, Future Age, How to Fight Lonliness etc. Can't Stand It (literally although I know why it is what it is), Candyfloss, NEGSIMWA and the like.....not so much.

I totally held out...didn't listen to the stream or anything else except some radio play on internet radio (internet radio...now THAT'S a revelation!! Parallel universe) of Bull Black Nova. Records generally grow on me with repeated listening, but this was a real letdown. Slick....weak. I'm glad that Jeff is a happier person now, but the music was better when he was in a darker place. I never thought Wilco would evolve into pop, but here we are. Don't get me wrong, pop isn't all bad....it's just not what I want Wilco to do. Yes, I know, it's not about me (as far as you're concerned).

I've now listened to Eureka a few times and it's stellar (albeit quite different) than Insignificance. I was amazed (but probably shouldn't have been) at how much O'Rourke's "sound" comes through in the context of Loose Fur. From what I can tell, Tweedy isn't a contributor to Eureka.

As an aside, my rabidness for Wilco will finally be consummated by going to a show!! Austin 5/12. Can't wait!

Finally got my Jim O'Rourke cd's. Insignificance is anything but. What a fabulous record. Truthfully, it may as well be a Loose Fur record that Tweedy doesn't sing on. I also have Eureka but haven't digested it yet. Anyone that loves Loose Fur has to have it.

personally, looking at the two Loose Fur records and YHF and AGiB, and his solo output I think Jim O'Rourke is, in the most unexaggerated way, a genius. I wish we could get more out of this guy Wilco-wise.

I have checked into Jim's solo stuff and will definitely be giving Eureka and Insignificance a listen in the very near future. I didn't realized he was with Sonic Youth on the Sonic Nurse and Murray Street records either....liked them both. The guy is prolific as hell.

If Tweedy thinks he's a genius (and has said so), it's good enough for me.

No offense, but you are a bit late to this party. Jay has been gone so long I don't even know how we can discuss his participation in the band, except when I see Wilco I do think about the riffs he left from Summerteeth that the newer members now get to play.

 

Seeing Nels when he is hot and seeing the band really dig playing keeps me from caring what happened to Jay. It was fun while it lasted, but it is over. Most of us have gotten over it long ago.

 

LouieB

My post wasn't concerning Jay's current involvement in the band. Clearly, that was over a long time ago. I'm comparing what I've seen and heard with Jay and what I've seen and heard with Nels in the band. It doesn't keep me up at night.

Thanks to the poster with the link to the Letterman clip.

Don't get me wrong....Nels is an extraordinary guitar player. Obviously gifted. I love the Pete Townshend style boots too. I have to say though that his guitar work in the context of Wilco leaves me wanting. He can ape every guitar part in every song prior to his arrival, but there's something that doesn't reach me about his playing. Despite the crappy dynamic that Jay Bennet brought to the band, I find his contribution was more compelling. More soul, less technique.

Another person I would love to get out from behind the curtain is Jim O'Rourke. I hate his singing on the Loose Fur stuff, but whatever else he brings to that table as well as the other Wilco projects makes me want him to be unmasked. He's openly credited on GIB, but has anyone seen him perform with Wilco?

I kind of confuse depressing and haunting emotionally. Wishful Thinking is probably haunting, but hits that depression button for me.

There is no uncertainty about Sunken Treasure

AGIB was the last Wilco record I needed to complete the catalog. I started by taking a chance on a used copy of YHF and then a leaked copy of SBS (incidentally, I have purchased 4 copies since it's release) and have developed an obsession for this band. Jeff Tweedy is a bloody genius....

This topic may have been covered in a previous thread, but a search didn't reveal it.

I have come to think that AGIB is as good as any music I have ever heard in my life....relative to myself, a significant statement. I have read lots of opinions on Less Than You Think, and it seems to have been universally criticized. As much a fanatic as I have become, I don't believe I'm saying this through Wilco colored glasses....am I the only freak that LOVES the drone in Less Than You Think? Because of the sequence of events (reviews first, acquisition of AGIB second), I was fully prepared to hate it, so I find myself surprised at the widespread contempt towards this carefully crafted piece of art.

I find it incredibly hypnotic and after listening to it about 10 times (sometimes back to back), I am now hearing many of the elements of it all around me.....albeit unamplified. Do I have any company, or is this a litmus test for inadequate sanity?