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  1. Yes but it's still 'Roo. Even having VIP, it's barely tolerable. If you don't have VIP, and you're over 30 & mature, you will hate it. We had tremendous connections, backstage access, free beer & water & some free food, and it was still a major hassle. The logistics are at times very difficult to manuver, meaning just getting from one stage to another presents problems. The VIP camping is at best okay. You walk a football field length to get a shower; the shower in the camper sucks. Period. If you take your own tour bus in, that would be the way to go. If you're thinking of the camping scene, good luck. It was literally gross. Have fun in the morning waiting in line 30 minutes for a port-a-potty that's not close to clean. If it sounds like I am whining, I'm not. I am spot on, and anyone who's done it knows the deal.

  2. This was a pretty good show. Since I'm kinda old school, any show that ends with the double shot of Monday & Outta Site is alright with me. Definitely a quirky place. Sometimes I think that the quirkier it is, the more they get off, because, well, because Jeff said so lol. First time driving in from ATL, where I now live, to see a Wilco show. The drive back kinda sucked; it reminded me of driving back from 9:30 Club shows. Glad I blew off the MS show. At least set list-wise, it was not as good.

     

    I hadn't seen them since Merriweather, and imo that was just an okay show. I've noticed the band has cut down on length of time they play. My personal sweet spot is about 2 1/2 hrs.

     

    One upcoming venue where I saw one of the best shows I've ever seen is C'ville. Very nice college town, plenty to do during the day, the wineries are better than you'd think.

     

    Going to see M83 tonite, who put out easily one of the best records of 2011, "Hurry Up We're Dreaming."

     

    Cheers!

  3. I usually only use the board to look for a tik but have read stuff on here for years. Now into my 30's on shows seen starting with the '97 Being There tour. Anyway, a few thoughts on the Beach Boys, who do seem to have a love/hate effect on people.

     

    First off, a few facts. Like them or not, they're American musical icons & Brian is legitimately a musical genius, savant, whatever you want to say. That outta the way, I had never seen them or Brian until the Smile Tour, when the reviews coerced me to go. Honestly, I thought that was pretty fabulous, and a solid handful of the excellent players he used are on stage for this 50th reunion. Beach Boys songs resonate with me, and I suspect many others, because on some level of the escapism of the beach, whether you live in Manhattan Beach or Manhattan. IMO there's really not much in life as pleasurable as days spent on the beach...reading, surfing, playing over the line, whatever. A good beach day in La Jolla can be just as good as one in Avalon, NJ. So all those songs of CA beaches, girls, convertibles ring true in a helluva lotta hearts.

     

    The 50th tour is great because you get them together - finally - and horrible because the skills have eroded badly. Watch the YouTube of them on Fallon to pick up the disharmony. That disharmony is ten fold on stage during a 40 song escapade, and nothing anyone says can counter the very real effect it has on the show. (Some of the reviews have completely left out the poor singing aspect to simply stroll down memory lane). However, the sheer joy of hearing the songs, of the memory those songs evoke for thousands of people as they recollect years gone by...throwing that frisbee, playing catch with your son, meeting your wife, all the things that tie many, if not most of us, to the beach remains as steadfast as ever. Some of the songs are nothing short of chill-inducing, and are performed extremely well. Others, well, not so much. Look, if you saw the Stones in '72, '75 & '81, seeing them on the last couple tours and any headed our way in no way measures up. Period. It's an inarguable fact. Same situation here. But if you have never seen them, and connect with the beach &/or the Beach Boys, absolutely go see them. Regarding the Mike Love anecdotes, I'd say that much of that is fact; I formerly worked for a major Southern Cal promoter, and the guy has plenty of

    detractors. Course, so do a lot of people in the music business, and so do a lot of people in general.

     

    Remember, if you think they suck, you can always head out and see, for my money, one of the top 3 touring bands in the land: Wilco. Of all the shows I've seen, one was mediocre, and it was definitely (bad) crowd driven.

     

    Cheers to all!

    TD

  4. OK fine....

    At Least That's What rocks (that's not really even an admission, it's obvious)

     

     

    & Via Chicago is a treat - but it is what it is

     

     

    My points stands, that during any (acoustic or not) set

    California Stars, Another Man's Done Gone, candy floss, When You Wake Up Feeling Old & Company In My Back don't compare to the greatness that is I'll Fightand many of their other songs

     

    Dude, give it a rest already. Even as you contradict yourself, I get what you are saying & even agree to a certain extent. I won't deny that the slower songs do not move me the way the rocking songs move me - which is, I think, what you are really trying to say?. That's pretty standard for rock bands with me. But the :headbonk method rarely works, especially on message boards.

     

     

    Last night's show ranks pretty high overall in the almost 35-ish I've seen. (On this tour) beats out night #2 in Jersey b/c there's no doubt that the crowd enthusiasm carried the day & took Jeff to the next level. Lots of singing the older songs from the longtime faithful, which is definitely a cool thing about places like Philly as opposed to Savannah or Scranton, where there's little history/continuity for the band to develop a relationship w/ the crowd over time. I don't think Tweedy really likes Philly, but he knows the musical knowledge runs deep & long, and respects that.

     

    I stood about 10th row center, and the sound from there was excellent. Whoever posted about the bad sound, the EF sound anywhere but the floor almost always is fairly bad; it just echoes around that cavernous venue.

     

    Also count me among those who favor Tweedy busting on anyone who talks (loudly, over the music) at concerts. Why is it that basically the under 25 crowd go to concerts to talk to their equally obnoxious friend(s) - hey, and let's pinpoint some more by calling out that it's usually girls

    - and sorry, but this isn't head banging, it's the unequivocal truth. I go to a LOT of concerts, at all types of venues, and this rings so true it's scary. Anywho...not that I am talking to people here, but just venting.

     

    Last night's show was the longest of the tour so far, at 190 minutes or so. You'd have to go back to the Troc in '97 to equal last night - and that was a different thing altogether as Wilco was a different band then.

     

    Cheers!

  5. Now that was a crazy — and great — show (the last night of the Kicking Television run at the Vic in '05)! I think that's what you're referring to anyway, Froggie? But in terms of length and number of songs, I think they've actually done longer on this "Evening With..." tour. :thumbup

     

    FTR, Wilco regularly played 2.5 hour shows "back in the day." It was a topic of conversation between Stan the sound guy & I last night. Great to see these long shows w/ the acoustic segue, for sure.

  6. Aw. Red-Eyed and Blue>I Got You was really the only thing on my wish list these past two nights. Still a great show, though.

     

    Red Eyed & Got You were on the setlist in the encore but not played. Can't Stand It & I'll Fight were also on it but not played.

  7. As a veteran of 31 Wilco shows, the first in '97, this one was a strange one. First, from the 5th row (equiv. of about 10/11th row factoring in the pit and aisle space), it sounded pretty close to terrible - a rare occurence at a Wilco show. Second, bizarre crowd, regardless of "why," & I am not snarking Savannah per se b/c it's a great, great city, but just not really that into it at all - and the band feeds off that. I saw that C'ville show, btw, a last show of a tour that was brilliant, so go figure on opinions. IMO it was far better than last night. Wish I could go to ATL but I am hitting a few of the Northeast shows where those crowds are always up for the give & take. Hard to believe it was 2:45 last night & yep, sure there were some damn fine songs but as a whole, comparing it to the many I've seen, just okay.

  8. Interestingly, a few of my local friends had tix for this show but opted to see Ryan Adams instead. What a choice that would have been to make....

     

    I had to make that choice, along w/ a friend who had purchased both sets of tix. We saw Ryan. Not my choice. He WAS very, very good & the venue - the Hiro - was awesome. But the setlist last night makes me wish I was there. Oh well...we knew it would be a good show! Glad it lived up to expectations!

     

    There's always the west coast later this summer!

  9. Did anyone nab a setlist? I'm curious as to what was originally set for the encores since it was very obvious they changed a great deal of them.

     

    Yes, I did get the actual setlist. Originally they were playing Theologians after Walken.

    Sunken Treasure was the first encore song listed, followed by CA Stars, Poor, & Spiders.

    Second encore was What Light, HMD, Late, & Outtasite in that order.

    No third encore.

  10. It's funny that reading all the snarks reminds me of when Springsteen does an E St band tour. A few shows in, if he doesn't play 5 chestnuts & Rosie EVERY night, 77 posters are getting all po'ed.

     

    While I empathize with the posters about blackberries, hipster crowds, et al, the reality was more in what MattZ wrote...about how a show like this one should make you think about a song like Jesus, Etc & its relation to the city, about how maybe under the microscope it wasn't a great show - honestly, none of the shows so far have been GREAT, imo - it was still a very good show & last but not least, about how it's so easy to get really jaded instead of realizing you're really fortunate. No soapbox intended, just some perspective.

  11. And also a Handshake somewhere in there. Great show!

     

    I need to type more carefully. Handshake was betw. Kamera & Shot. Good catch!

     

    Handshake was better last night than at MPP.

  12. well, I saw the owl

     

    Ok, that needs an explanation. I believe the original post was because the owl at MPP actually got mentioned & moved to a prominent viewing place on stage and was in general a comedic moment. Not so last night.

     

    That's all. :beer

  13. Set list in order, from the board: Throw in Acuff...where? I forget, and this is correct:

     

    Seeds

    Face

    Heart

    Kamera

    Handshake

    Shot

    Germany

    SBSky

    Shake It Off

    War

    Jesus

    Theologians

    Hate It Here

    Walken

    I'm The Man

    Hummingbird

    Ashes

    Spiders

     

    ======

     

    CA Stars

    HMD

    Late Greats

    Always

    Wheel

     

    Ashes & Spiders were supposed to be the first encore. But b/c of the glitch (bad guitar cable immediately followed by Jeff's mike going out), they played straight through due to curfew. Jeff even mentioned it. Great venue, it was nice from 7th row center. Saw Springsteen here a long time ago. Totally different feel last night from MPP. They took advantage of the intimacy to play more from the new one. No Outta Site last night. :ohwell A nice combo of shows. REALLY looking forward to Warsaw. I need a pierogie (sp?). Well, ok, not really. :blush

     

    Acuff was great, but people, can we PLEASE get some quiet when we get something that cool. LOTS of people screaming, shouting stuff...why do people feel the need to do that?

     

    BTW, plenty of tix outside last night. Not many really good seats, but at least there were seats

  14. Had to read through all the comments before making mine. Prolly my 15th or so show, which started in 97. Sorry that I won't remember poster names for reference. Anyway, most of the first half of the show imo did really suffer from some bad sound, with a muddled middle & various guitars desperately in need of a tweak from the sound board...a tweak upward. Nels guitar was barely heard on a few songs, so much so that the guy next to me looked at me & I was nodding, saying yeah WTF is Nels guitar. Like minds.... I was in row J center, so it should sound good there if anywhere. But apparently the sound on the floor was better, as one friend said she thought it sounded great from there??? In the least, it was spotty. I really didn't think the show took off until "Germany," which is quickly becoming a signiture song in the setlist. It was maybe even better last night in Red Bank! It seemed to come together then, and the energy level, while high, took off from there. The second half of the show was classic Wilco, rivaling the best I've seen (9:30 shows, Charlottesville last year, a few others). Clearly one of Jeff's favorite places is DC. But overall while a very good show , it wasn't a great show. As for the comment on venue size having an effect, sure, I'll take small venues like Count Basie or the 9:30. But if you sit close, the "size" of the venue is shrunk, in essence, and a great show IS determined by the set list, the sound, which is frequently better in larger venues the closer you sit (excluding those few rows where the sound goes right over your head - why do people want front row seats? & why do you think tapers set up where they do?), the moods of band & crowd (for instance, crowds in Hershey are show-killers from the word go - sorry, no offense intended), and the intangibles, of course. :blink

     

    Anyway, the band continues of its roll & on some level, it's all good. There are no bad Wilco shows, just varying levels of one of the best live bands doing their thing. Having shared a Wilco show w/ 3 show virgins over the last 2 nights, each of them could not stop w/ the superlatives. It's always nice to see & hear that shared sense of joie de vivre.

  15. As a veteran Wilco show goer, I want to say a few things to the C'ville people here, and to the city. YOU FOLKS ROCKED. Easily THE most spirited crowd I've ever experienced at a Wilco show, and I've seen them all over. It all just came together Sunday night, didn't it. The venue (btw, it just received a sound upgrade, which is why some of you said it "sounded better than b4)," the weather, and the vibe of the city. You have a gem of a city. Christ, this notherner wants to move there! (be nice!). It was all just real good. And the band responded in kind. Tweedy wasn't being sarcastic (for a change...you shoulda heard him in Jersey Friday night) when he said he felt safe. So to all you posters here who are local, I salute you. I spent 3 days in C'vile & will be back in the fall.

     

    To the taper in green, I was the guy in the blue t-shirt who was right in front of you to your left...you answered my question with etree. Just sent you a PM.

     

    C'ville, thx. You rule!

     

    BTW, that was an exceptional performance all the way around. Would expect that would be considered a classic performance AND best show of this tour segment by far

     

    TD

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