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Are the versions that different than the ones we know and love? I've never heard this before.
There are two versions of the original Chrome Dreams floating around.
The first version was the one that existed in tape trading circles for years, and that's the 12-track one that doesn't include 'River of Pride'.
There's also a CD, widely available in the 'Import' section, that has the 15-song tracklist mentioned above. However, there are some differences between the song versions used - for instance, the Hurricane on the CD is a 15-minute live version, whereas the Hurricane on the 12 track tape is the studio version also found on American Stars & Bars (and Decade).
After reading that press release, I'm remarkably pumped up about this new album. That 18.5 minute song is puzzling my brain right now, as are the two other "refurbished" songs. What else goes with the themes of Ordinary People? Grey Riders? Born to Run? Hmm.
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Good:
Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Bad:
...And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead
Good:
Biff Hitler and the Violent Mood Swings
Bad:
Bobby Joe Ebola and the Children MacNuggits
It's really a fine line.
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The Black Crowes dumping Jeff Cease and hiring Marc Ford. For about a 5 year period, it generated some awesome music.
The Moody Blues replacing Clint Warwick and Denny Laine with Justin Hayward and John Lodge. Added bonus for getting Justin Hayward from an ad they placed in the newspaper.
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I think I started the thread because I'd just heard of the opening song, thought the lyrics kicked Yankee ass and wanted to share it. The rest was musing on my part, would the Federals have been better off letting the South go its own way, rather than fighting the deadliest war (still) in US history. Consider it a late-night college bull session.
Well, in that case, the answer's pretty easy. It was important to bring the South back because the United States government would've had zero power as a federal institution if it just allowed states who disagreed with federal policy (or, in this case, IMPLIED federal policy) to leave whenever they wanted. One can always question whether the costs, be they in people or material, were worth the conflict, but ultimately, the Union would not have been preserved, and very easily could've seen its component parts start to shear off and form their own separate republics. Heck, there are people in Vermont who are trying to do this very thing right now.
Unfortunately, by forcing the issue, both sides ensured that a future US government would have far more federal power than the founding fathers had ever intended. From this standpoint, I think Lincoln gets far too much of a free pass than he should. He knew that his election would guarantee Southern secession. That said, the southern way of life was untenable for an advanced society. Even with that, there are large swaths of the south that still refer to the Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression". Having lived in southwest Virginia, North Carolina, and northern Mississippi, I ran into those types all the time.
Regarding the music...in the unlikely event of the North allowing the South to go its own way, I imagine that the steady flow of black refugees to the North would've brought the precursor forms of jazz & the blues with them. Plus, with both West Virginia and Kentucky still in the Union, bluegrass and appalachian music would've been at least somewhat in the picture.
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Wow...sounds like it was quite an event.
Hope I get a chance to hear this one.
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Actually, that's not bad news. I was very concerned about Volume 1 coming out in October --- I'll be working on my dissertation then, and the arrival of the archives might just derail that project entirely.
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Soundboy, thanks again.
Strange thing happened...I went to download the new torrent, but I still had the old torrent in my DL queue...and within about 3 minutes, the old torrent finished downloading. I'm listening now...sounds wonderful!
If anyone who was stuck at 99.9% on the FLAC torrent needs me to re-open it, just PM me. I'll keep it open until about 3 tonight.
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well then I am very sorry I tried my best. does any one know how get their flac file Print that they need, if someone can walk me through this process I will re-up the show for you all. I have not seen any thing on how to do this
aGAIN i AM VERY SORRY
Hey man, no problem at all. I appreciate the effort...seriously. This is an imperfect technology, so these things happen.
Ironically, I got all the way up to 99.9% and THEN it stopped. BitTorrent is such a tease.
Thanks again for the effort.
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Well, for the moment, it's still letting me download...I'm at 96.7% and still going. Let's hope the "peers" are actually seeders in disguise.
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Side with the Seeds was pretty awesome at Indy last night.
That said, I was really blown away by Shake It Off. Which surprised me, honestly.
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Dave,
Nice article. FYI, though, Stirratt was not in Uncle Tupelo.
I thought Stirrat and Coomer both joined Uncle Tupelo after the last album, and were there for the final tour?
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Murat Folks,
I recorded the show, I am tracking and listening to it as I type this. I need to do a bit of mastering to it so it will be up in a week or so on www.bt.etree.org.
I will post when I put it up
You can thank the wait for the mastering because of the dick-head a few rows back who made me lower the stand almost into the crowd. That is the first time in 17 years of taping that has happened to me. I would have sent him a cd of the show for any inconvienince becasue of any site lines obstructions. Most folks are so kind, they know there is a time when they will get to hear a show they really liked and or was special- and can live with a BIT of site line obstruction. Not a big deal, once in 17 years is not to bad. The recording came out great, just needs a boost at about 10,000 cycles.
I was wondering what the deal was with that. I was directly behind the stand, about 15 rows (HH), and I saw after the first song that the microphones appeared to be crowd-surfing.
That sucks...it wasn't like the mic stand was particularly huge or anything. Anyway, thanks for taping, and I'm looking forward to hearing the finished product.
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I echo everyone else's sentiments...that was my fourth Wilco show, and easily the best so far.
I think Spiders would've been even better if Jeff's red SG hadn't broken a string halfway through...nice save by the roadie to bring the blue one out.
I'd never heard that incarnation of Sunken Treasure before...and I liked it a lot.
The crowd seemed a lot younger than the Murat show two years ago...that might've had something to do with the energy level.
Now I've gotta hope that Wilco starts playing south Florida, since I'm moving there in about six weeks!
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Alright, I'm heading up now. Hope to see some of you there!
(I'll be the tall guy with the green-and-white polo)
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EDIT: OOPS!!! - I am wrong about the time. The Murat Centre website says doors at 7:00, show at 8:00. Sorry 'bout that. Add a half-hour to all that stuff above.
Are you sure that Low is playing at this show? The LiveNation page shows "Wilco with Low" for the two shows after, but not for the Murat show.
Here's the link...Live Nation
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I'd personally say just go with the American Deluxe Tele. The chances of that guitar letting you down are very low.
What kind of SG do you have? I just recently joined the SG family.
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I can't really compare EZDrummer to NI Battery, because I've never used NI battery --- went straight from an Alesis SR-16 to EZDrummer.
I've found EZDrummer to be pretty easy to use, although you're somewhat stuck with the way the drums are set up - you can take pieces away by turning their individual channel volume down, but you can't really add any pieces unless you port in a second plug-and-play soundfile into the multitrack.
That said, the "room" and "presence" functions on the volume really give a lot of sonic diversity to the sound you get from the drum samples...and they're really good sounding drum samples to begin with. I've had more than a few people ask me who the new drummer was that I hired.
As for using it in multitracking, I found it pretty simple to set up in Sonar 5 --- just drag the files into the MIDI track and control the volume through one of the regular tracks.
I know I like it because I don't have to program each sound individually...something that I tried for years to learn (and failed miserably at).
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I'm there. Any recommendations for good, quick places to eat near the venue?
I guess it depends on your definition of "quick", but you can never go wrong with Bazbeaux's. Arguably the best pizza in town, and only a few blocks away.
There's also a Scottish pub on Massachusetts Avenue that's pretty decent. Also very close to the venue.
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The girlfriend and I will be there. Wilco shows at the Murat are always good...she lives within walking distance of the place.
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Having thought about it some more, I'd say that Nothing Up My Sleeve and Venus Stopped The Train would rank up there in the depressing department.
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well, it's been 15 years since I listened to the Moody Blues, but I seem to recall that in 1967 they began this streak of 6 (not 5):
Days of Future Passed
In Search of the Lost Chord
To Our Children's Children's Children
On the Threshhold of a Dream
A Question of Balance
Every Good Boy Deserves Favour
could have them out of order ...
You were mighty close. Threshold came before Children's.
But you left the best one out! Seventh Sojourn.
A couple others...one partially mentioned earlier:
Can't Buy a Thrill
Countdown to Ecstasy
Pretzel Logic
Katy Lied
The Royal Scam
Aja
Blondie
Plastic Letters
Parallel Lines
Eat to the Beat
Autoamerican
Shake Your Money Maker
The Southern Harmony and Music Companion
Amorica
Three Snakes and One Charm
By Your Side (okay, 4 out of 5 ain't bad)
The Doors
Strange Days
Waiting For the Sun
The Soft Parade
Morrison Hotel
Mars Audiac Quintet
Emperor Tomato Ketchup
Dots and Loops
Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night
Sound-Dust
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Company In My Back always seemed a bit depressing to me, albeit in a good way.
Ashes of American Flags as well.
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I'd just like to say that the 3rd 07 Living Room Show should take full credit for this song coming back.
Indeed, if for no other reason than it probably forced Jeff to go back and re-memorize the lyrics afterwards.
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Hello all, i read this forum a lot, but never post, and thought now might be a novel time to seek out some opinions!
You see, my high school music teacher wants us to do a project analyzing a protest song, and even though i realllly dont like protest music, and am not very knowledgeable of any...at all, i still have to do it!
So, i was thinking of taking a wilco song, and making my teacher believe it is protesting something!
This will be tough, but i think with the right suggestions, i can make it happen.
okay!
"Ashes of American Flags" protests commercialism and the de-personalization of society.
"She's a Jar" protests the declining wages of American fathers.
"Monday" protests youngsters dropping out of high school.
"Spiders" protests accountants.
I'd say you have several to choose from.
what is the saddest song you know?
in Someone Else's Song
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Some that I didn't see mentioned:
Ain't Wasting Time No More - Allman Brothers Band (how has this not been mentioned yet???)
Borrowed Tune - Neil Young
Any World (That I'm Welcome To) - Steely Dan
When You're A Free Man - Moody Blues [actually, pretty much everything off Seventh Sojourn]
Nobody's Fault But My Own - Beck
No Problem - Local H
Hey Jealousy - Gin Blossoms (yes, seriously)
Plush - STP
Train in the Distance - Paul Simon
Needle of Death - Bert Jansch