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    Animal Collective, Flight of the Conchords--Racist?

    in Someone Else's Song

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    here is a series of links:

    http://dustedmagazine.com/reviews/4276

    http://animalcollectin.6.forumer.com/viewt...asc&start=0

    http://gorillavsbear.blogspot.com/2008/05/...e-vs-money.html

     

    link 1) dusted magizine review by Andrew Beckerman, awful piece of music criticism.

    link 2) collected animals forum response

    link 3) gorilla vs. bear, discussion over the issue

     

    CONDENSED:

    So, writer of Dusted Magizine argues that Animal Collective is another overpriviliged white band not acknowledging their black roots and is "fetishizing" nature. Lots of overblown vernacular is used and the "Water Curses" EP is never even discussed as a piece of music, but rather used as a vehicle to make an argument about, well, white people. Discussion ensues on the Gorilla V Bear website and apparently the majority of people are ignorant for thinking an EP review should include an actual review of the content of the EP.

     

    so...I was wondering, how does a band not acknowledging their black roots make them racist? I argued on the gorilla v bear site that it just wasn't a good place for it and all I got was a dumb statement about my "white privilege". is it really so off color of me to say it was just not the smart place for it, or am I somehow perpetuating some kind of racism but saying that a music review is not a place for broad, grandiose statements on racism and culture? the writer does the same shtick on the Flight of the Conchords review (found on that site) and on the Apples in Stereo review he claims the release of their B-Sides as greedy "economic necesity." Not only are his points off (people want to make everything into racism for some reason), but I think his placement of where he decided to write could have been better.

    Deerhoof at The Linda, Albany, 4/18/08

    in After The Show

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    wow, this was an incredible show. highlights include weird extended noise/syncopated jams that flowed from song to song but were actually songs themselves, 2 new songs (Numoni and 'Basketball Get Your Groove Back') Also, Greg Saunier talking on the mic for a second about how he wants the guitars to be louder so our ears would bleed, then the second he sat down, with no count in, they broke into the next song (Dummy Discards Heart). Other highlights: Greg Saunier playing drums with a tambourine and drumstick, Spirit Ditties of No Tone, and the breaking of "approximately one guitar amp, one speaker cabinet, one guitar, 4 pedals, and 7 cables" throughout the night. I don't understand how this band manages to play and be so tight yet so fluid, it was incredible. I don't know if anyone went, but it was amazing. I lost complete track of the set list after the third song, but there were some oldies and some newbies in there. It started with Perfect Me, is all I know.

    The latest Ryan Adams thread

    in Someone Else's Song

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    I was sticking a WIlco lyric in there - because like Ryan, I am not right in the head.

     

    I rather like your idea - and I think I have asked for such a thing before - but I believe the idea was rejected.

     

    why? I don't think adding sub forums costs money and moving threads isn't like rocket science.

    The latest Ryan Adams thread

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    The force is strong in this one.

     

    Although, I doubt we could all come to a unified theory of every band that should go in such a section.

     

    eh, why does there be a unified theory? it's mostly out of practicality. there are obvious choices-- The Dead, Ryan Adams, Neil Young/Dylan...Then I guess after that it just becomes a matter of watching for what bands come up often and deciding to plop them in there. I don't see why it has to be democratic, I don't think anyone's going to bitch about a thread being moved there. just put them in there and have all news relating to those groups (active or inactive) go in there, as well. For instance, if you have a Radiohead thread, that's where tour date posts could go, etc. if they're all stickied it just becomes a matter of posting in the one you're interested in.

    What do the Wilco guys look like to you?

    in Just A Fan

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    Jeff- lobster fisherman

    John- baseball player, probably minor leagues

    Pat- aspiring model

    Nels- lumberjack

    Mikael- hipster; hangs out at coffee shops, smokes cigarettes, holds high opinion of his own views on art, life

    Glenn- drummer for a really 80's band holding his sticks differently.

    The latest Ryan Adams thread

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

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    Yet another thread where people go on about how they dislike Ryan Adams - I look at the Ryan board quite a bit and I have not noticed one thread dissing Wilco - interesting.

     

    mostly because they probably went to a Wilco show and Wilco played and put 100% in, where, apparently Ryan Adams bitches, moans, and, well, fucks around. Sorry, but every time I hear his music and hear about him I just figure out more and more that this guy really thinks he is the shit and not a really mediocre paint by numbers alt cuntry douchebag. As much as I hate Conor Oberst, at least he has his own flair and bombast, Ryan Adams is just plain...well, plain.

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