Good Old Neon
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I’m not quite sure an 8 year old is well enough developed, mentally and/or emotionally, to make that sort of judgment call – that’s where, one hopes, a reasonable, responsible adult steps in. The day I, as an adult (nevermind a police officer), cannot handle a stick wielding 8 year old without resorting to the use of a potentially deadly device, is the day I throw myself off a fucking bridge.
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Face to face conversations are somewhat limited in that way, I suppose. Whereas communicating on the internet allows for the inclusion of other media. Say, I don’t know, gifs for example? I do most of my posting from work, as time allows. Sometimes I have a fair amount of free time, sometimes not. On those occasions that I don’t, I’ll often site other sources.
At the end of the day, very few if any original thoughts and/or opinions are shared on this board or elsewhere. Like most if not all people, I’m largely a product of my influences. Most of what I’ve learned and what I know comes from living and experiencing life, books, music, movies, peers, elders, etc. I read a lot of scientific literature where, to help illustrate or make a point, it’s not uncommon to find quotes or information from myriad sources. In the future, when posting on Wilco’s message board, I’ll try to hold myself to a higher standard.
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I always think it's funny when you and Sparky Lyle post about how others are controlling our infrastructure and media...but rely almost exclusively on others' words and ideas to convey the point.
Actually, I author(ed) the vast majority of my posts - and I was often criticized for their length and/or content. So at one point I just sort of said to myself, fuck it - read this instead.
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My bottomline (using someone else's words) - from The New Yorker:
If a Republican Party that has lately become rigidly, fanatically “conservative” can succeed in reducing public-sector unions to the parlous condition of their private-sector brethren, then organized labor—which, for all its failings, all its shortsightedness, all its “special interest” selfishness, remains the only truly formidable counterweight to the ever-growing political power of that top one-thousandth—will no longer be anything close to a match for organized money. And that will be the news, brought to you by a few very rich, very powerful Americans—and many, many billions of dollars.
Link - http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2011/03/07/110307taco_talk_hertzberg
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As far as I can tell, the financial crisis is as much the fault of ignorant and/or irresponsible consumers as it is the corporations that designed their businesses to take advantage of ignorant and irresponsible consumers. It's a shame, but we can't hoist all the blame on "Wall Street."
Well, if that's your impression, I have a reading list for you that might help disabuse you of it, that impression.
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I recently finished Taibbi's new one, Griftopia - and damn if it didn't make me want to pretty much take up arms against these assholes.
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Aye but your Union Leaders maybe building a Mansion in Tampa
Not to mention the Bank CEOs who bled our economy (and pension funds, etc) dry. But hey, wrecking the global economy is hard work, and they deserve to be compensated for their efforts. I have an idea, rather than go after the real culprits, let’s take it out on those corporate bloodsucking teachers who’ve spent the last century pretty much just like raping this country.
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In which fox news makes yet another "honest mistake"
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You don't need unions to have good working conditions. That's ridiculous.
Correct. And for that, to a large degree, you can thank unions.
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Scott Walker gets pranked, and, with any luck, finds himself deep in the shit (from what I've read, this is %100 legit)
From Buffalobest.com:
Koch Whore
Posted by Murphy On February - 23 - 2011
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker answers his master’s call
“David Koch”: We’ll back you any way we can. What we were thinking about the crowd was, uh, was planting some troublemakers.
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker: You know, well, the only problem with that—because we thought about that…
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whores
WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO WITNESS IS REAL. NO NAMES HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT. THERE ARE NO INNOCENT.
-MURPHY
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“He’s just hard-lined—will not talk, will not communicate, will not return phone calls.”
-Wisconsin state Sen. Tim Carpenter (D) on Gov. Walker (source)
Carpenter’s quote made me wonder: who could get through to Gov. Walker? Well, what do we know about Walker and his proposed union-busting, no-bid budget? The obvious candidate was David Koch.
I first called at 11:30 am CST, and eventually got through to a young, male receptionist who, upon hearing the magic name Koch, immediately transferred me to Executive Assistant Governor Dorothy Moore.
“We’ve met before, Dorothy,” I nudged. “I really need to talk to Scott—Governor Walker.” She said that, yes, she thought she had met Koch, and that the name was “familiar.” But she insisted that Walker was detained in a meeting and couldn’t get away. She asked about the nature of my call. I balked, “I just needed to speak with the Governor. He knows what this is about,” I said. She told me to call back at noon, and she’d have a better idea of when he would be free.
I called at noon and was quickly transferred to Moore, who then transferred me to Walker’s Chief of Staff Keith Gilkes. He was “expecting my call.”
“David!” he said with an audible smile.
I politely said hello, not knowing how friendly Gilkes and Koch may be. He was eager to help. “I was really hoping to talk directly to Scott,” I said. He said that could be arranged and that I should just leave my number. I explained to Gilkes, “My goddamn maid, Maria, put my phone in the washer. I’d have her deported, but she works for next to nothing.” Gilkes found this amusing. “I’m calling from the VOID—with the VOID, or whatever it’s called. You know, the Snype!”
“Gotcha,” Gilkes said. “Let me check the schedule here…OK, there’s an opening at 2 o’clock Central Standard Time. Just call this same number and we’ll put you through.”
Could it really be that easy? Yes. What follows is a rushed, abridged transcript of my—I mean, David Koch’s conversation with Gov. Walker.
Walker: Hi; this is Scott Walker.
Koch: Scott! David Koch. How are you?
Walker: Hey, David! I’m good. And yourself?
Koch: I’m very well. I’m a little disheartened by the situation there, but, uh, what’s the latest?
Walker: Well, we’re actually hanging pretty tough. I mean—you know, amazingly there’s a much smaller group of protesters—almost all of whom are in from other states today. The State Assembly is taking the bill up—getting it all the way to the last point it can be at where it’s unamendable. But they’re waiting to pass it until the Senate’s—the Senate Democrats, excuse me, the assembly Democrats have about a hundred amendments they’re going through. The state Senate still has the 14 members missing but what they’re doing today is bringing up all sorts of other non-fiscal items, many of which are things members in the Democratic side care about. And each day we’re going to ratchet it up a little bit…. The Senate majority leader had a great plan he told about this morning—he told the Senate Democrats about and he’s going to announce it later today, and that is: The Senate organization committee is going to meet and pass a rule that says if you don’t show up for two consecutive days on a session day—in the state Senate, the Senate chief clerk—it’s a little procedural thing here, but—can actually have your payroll stopped from being automatically deducted—
Koch: Beautiful.
Walker: —into your checking account and instead—you still get a check, but the check has to be personally picked up and he’s instructing them—which we just loved—to lock them in their desk on the floor of the state Senate.
Koch: Now you’re not talking to any of these Democrat bastards, are you?
Walker: Ah, I—there’s one guy that’s actually voted with me on a bunch of things I called on Saturday for about 45 minutes, mainly to tell him that while I appreciate his friendship and he’s worked with us on other things, to tell him I wasn’t going to budge.
Koch: Goddamn right!
Walker: …his name is Tim Cullen—
Koch: All right, I’ll have to give that man a call.
Walker: Well, actually, in his case I wouldn’t call him and I’ll tell you why: he’s pretty reasonable but he’s not one of us…
Koch: Now who can we get to budge on this collective bargaining?
Walker: …I think the paycheck will have an impact…secondly, one of the things we’re looking at next…we’re still waiting on an opinion to see if the unions have been paying to put these guys up out of state. We think there’s at minimum an ethics violation if not an outright felony.
Koch: Well, they’re probably putting hobos in suits.
Walker: Yeah.
Koch: That’s what we do. Sometimes.
Walker: I mean paying for the senators to be put up. I know they’re paying for these guy—I mean, people can pay for protesters to come in and that’s not an ethics code, but, I mean, literally if the unions are paying the 14 senators—their food, their lodging, anything like that…[*** Important regarding his later acceptance of a Koch offer to “show him a good time.” ***]
[i was stunned. I am stunned. In the interest of expediting the release of this story, here are the juiciest bits:]
Walker: …I’ve got layoff notices ready…
Koch: Beautiful; beautiful. Gotta crush that union.
Walker: [bragging about how he doesn't budge]…I would be willing to sit down and talk to him, the assembly Democrat leader, plus the other two Republican leaders—talk, not negotiate and listen to what they have to say if they will in turn—but I’ll only do it if all 14 of them will come back and sit down in the state assembly…legally, we believe, once they’ve gone into session, they don’t physically have to be there. If they’re actually in session for that day, and they take a recess, the 19 Senate Republicans could then go into action and they’d have quorum…so we’re double checking that. If you heard I was going to talk to them that’s the only reason why. We’d only do it if they came back to the capital with all 14 of them…
Koch: Bring a baseball bat. That’s what I’d do.
Walker: I have one in my office; you’d be happy with that. I have a slugger with my name on it.
Koch: Beautiful.
Walker: [union-bashing...]
Koch: Beautiful.
Walker: So this is ground zero, there’s no doubt about it. [Talks about a “great” NYT piece of “objective journalism.” Talks about how most private blue-collar workers have turned against public, unionized workers.]…So I went through and called a handful, a dozen or so lawmakers I worry about each day and said, “Everyone, we should get that story printed out and send it to anyone giving you grief.”
Koch: Goddamn right! We, uh, we sent, uh, Andrew Breitbart down there.
Walker:Yeah.
Koch: Yeah.
Walker: Good stuff.
Koch: He’s our man, you know.
Walker: [blah about his press conferences, attacking Obama, and all the great press he's getting.] Brian [sadoval], the new Governor of Nevada, called me the last night he said—he was out in the Lincoln Day Circuit in the last two weekends and he was kidding me, he said, “Scott, don’t come to Nevada because I’d be afraid you beat me running for governor.” That’s all they want to talk about is what are you doing to help the governor of Wisconsin. I talk to Kasich every day—John’s gotta stand firm in Ohio. I think we could do the same thing with Vic Scott in Florida. I think, uh, Snyder—if he got a little more support—probably could do that in Michigan. You start going down the list there’s a lot of us new governors that got elected to do something big.
Koch: You’re the first domino.
Walker: Yep. This is our moment.
Koch: Now what else could we do for you down there?
Walker: Well the biggest thing would be—and your guy on the ground [Americans For Prosperity president Tim Phillips] is probably seeing this [stuff about all the people protesting, and some of them flip him off].
[Abrupt end of first recording, and start of second.]
Walker: [bullshit about doing the right thing and getting flipped off by “union bulls,” and the decreasing number of protesters. Or some such.]
Koch: We’ll back you any way we can. What we were thinking about the crowd was, uh, was planting some troublemakers.
Walker: You know, well, the only problem with that —because we thought about that. The problem—the, my only gut reaction to that is right now the lawmakers I’ve talked to have just completely had it with them, the public is not really fond of this…[explains that planting troublemakers may not work.] My only fear would be if there’s a ruckus caused is that maybe the governor has to settle to solve all these problems…[something about '60s liberals.]…Let ‘em protest all they want…Sooner or later the media stops finding it interesting.
Koch: Well, not the liberal bastards on MSNBC.
Walker: Oh yeah, but who watches that? I went on “Morning Joe” this morning. I like it because I just like being combative with those guys, but, uh. You know they’re off the deep end.
Koch: Joe—Joe’s a good guy. He’s one of us.
Walker: Yeah, he’s all right. He was fair to me…[bashes NY Senator Chuck Schumer, who was also on the program.]
Koch: Beautiful; beautiful. You gotta love that Mika Brzezinski; she’s a real piece of ass.
Walker: Oh yeah. [story about when he hung out with human pig Jim Sensenbrenner at some D.C. function and he was sitting next to Brzezinski and her father, and their guest was David Axelrod. He introduced himself.]
Koch: That son of a bitch!
Walker: Yeah no kidding huh?…
Koch: Well, good; good. Good catching up with ya’.
Walker: This is an exciting time [blah, blah, blah, Super Bowl reference followed by an odd story of pulling out a picture of Ronald Reagan and explaining to his staff the plan to crush the union the same way Reagan fired the air traffic controllers]…that was the first crack in the Berlin Wall because the Communists then knew Reagan wasn’t a pushover. [blah, blah, blah. He's exactly like Reagan. Won't shut up about how awesome he is.]
Koch: [Laughs] Well, I tell you what, Scott: once you crush these bastards I’ll fly you out to Cali and really show you a good time.
Walker: All right, that would be outstanding. [*** Ethical violation much? ***] Thanks for all the support…it’s all about getting our freedoms back…
Koch: Absolutely. And, you know, we have a little bit of a vested interest as well. [Laughs]
Walker: [blah] Thanks a million!
Koch: Bye-bye!
Walker: Bye.
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So there you have it, kids. Government isn’t for the people. It’s for the people with money. You want to be heard? Too fucking bad. You want to collectively bargain? You can’t afford a seat at the table. You may have built that table. But it’s not yours. It belongs to the Kochs and the oligarch class. It’s guarded by Republicans like Walker, and his Democratic counterparts across that ever-narrowing aisle that is corporate rule, so that the ever-widening gap between the haves and the have-nots can swallow all the power in the world. These are known knowns, and now we just know them a little more.
But money isn’t always power. The protesters in Cairo and Madison have taught us this—reminded us of this. They can’t buy a muzzle big enough to silence us all. Share the news. Do not retreat; ReTweet.
The revolution keeps spinning. Try not to get too dizzy.
Link - which, due to extremely heavy traffic, may be down.
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Is the pissed off AOL subscriber aware that the "g" in gmail stands for "gay" - as in gaymail.com. If he's not, maybe you should inform him.
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The Pixies.
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1st Olberman wasnt a Journalist he was a bomb thrower for the Left .. On one hand I hate to see him go because the occasions when I could take the time to stomach him, he was like watching a Train Wreck.. I also hate to see him go because I like free speech and even if I cant stand what a person says, I still think that person should have a soap box to scream from ... he will just find a smaller box is all. The market of ideas and the market of the economy have both spoken and he and his network are not profiting anyone. Good Riddance and Good Day... Day 1 of no Olby!
And which network, may I ask, is the market of ideas profiting from? Fox makes a tidy little profit, yet its viewers are less informed than folks who get their news elsewhere.
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As an atheist, if I were presented with definitive evidence proving that the universe was both created and administered by a “god” I would reevaluate my current mode of thinking. Whereas, through science and reasoning, we now know that the universe is not 6000 years old, Adam and Eve were not tricked into eating fruit by a dastardly snake, etc etc etc – yet these are still commonly held beliefs. A recent poll, I believe it was based on census data, stated that 60% of Americans accept the creationists’ view as it relates to our origins. It would certainly seem that no amount of evidence to the contrary will suffice where dogmatic religious beliefs are concerned.
I will go out on a limb here and suggest that - if presented with persuasive evidence proving the existence of a god – most atheists would be willing to accept the evidence, and, as a result, adjust their views. Why? Because, unlike most religions, an atheist doctrine based on dogmatic beliefs one must follow doesn’t exist. I’ve found that most folks who claim, say, Dawkins for example, is just as dogmatic as a Christian fundamentalist know very little about Dawkins, nor have they read his books – only one of which addresses religion head on. The others are primarily concerned with biology.
I would be thrilled to live forever, reacquainted with family members who have passed – but the fact is, we have zero evidence to support this belief – outside of texts written thousands of years ago, by folks who barely possessed a rudimentary sense of science, astronomy, physics, biology, etc – all of which is reflected in the bible. Where it appears that god himself is not aware that the universe does not revolve around the earth, illnesses are not caused by demon possessions, etc.
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Atheists attempt to approach everything scientifically. Therefore, every belief or non-belief will have a certain margin of error. Atheists do not claim to know any "absolute truths" the way dogmatic religions do.
Religious people must often reject evidence that tenants of their belief system are false, based only on their faith. However, if an Atheist was to encounter evidence for the existence of god (or the Flying Spaghetti Monster), they would be forced to re-evaluate their beliefs and might possibly alter them if the evidence was compelling.
It is the receptivity of Atheists to re-evaluate the facts based on new evidence that prevents them from being dogmatic - imo.
How not to subdue a f*&^(ing CHILD
in Tongue-Tied Lightning
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Pepper spray has been found to be a potential contributor to death in several instances – though the evidence is admittedly sort of dubious.
With that said, I’m not sure how many tests have been conducted to determine whether it’s safe to use on children – people tend to frown upon using kids as guinea pigs for those types of experiments.