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SBS is my favorite post Jay album. The latest album, to me, is their worst effort and seems contrived. There are some gems on AGIB but I've read a lot of that material was Jay/Jeff stuff originally. Not sure if that's true but it's believable considering the timeline.

* Jeff will be considered one of the greatest songwriters while marrying words to Jay Bennett's music. That's how it should read. They've hit a major downturn without that backdrop. What I hear now is Jeff trying to emulate what Jay, O'Rourke, et al taught him in the studio while the lyrics seem like afterthoughts. :::awaits the wrath:::

Should have just said Acuff-Rose.

I think Ed Burch could answer that one.

The repetitive "nothing" is annoying too. There is a theme to wta and it's repetitive. Not much depth. Jay definitely could sculpt a record with more depth. Nels can destroy a solo and Jay was no slouch himself. Jay is sorely missed in wilco recording sessions and there's no way around it. To my ears the post Jay freakouts seem like...well freakouts...whereas the freakouts with Jay engineering were intricately orchestrated and melodic masterpieces.

I really think that's part of the problem. Jeff ripping on guitar? I wish he'd go back to ripping folk guitar instead of trying to be someone he's not. Oh well. They still rock it hard live.

That's weird because it was played there.

Played it in Berkeley this year. That being said the studio cut seems like Jeff's really trying hard to croon. I don't know. This whole album seems stressed, as if a facsimile of wilco albums past have droned into a strokes style tiny progression of same chords. To me it's spiders with edgier (trying too hard to be edgy!) lyrics.

With each Wilco album produced post Jay I have to disagree with everyone who says Tweedy provided the great ironic and quirky lyrics "she's a jar" "ashtray says she was up all night" etc etc from the older Wilco albums. Having reviewed some albums Jay helped produce, John Ralston's Sorry Vampire, I hear the amazing arrangements and weirdo lyrics from Wilco albums past. Jeff is talented, but without Jay bouncing ideas off of their music has suffered greatly and when they've already released such great albums we're forced to compare. If AGIB (jay had a part in composing those but not in

Give them the YHF demos.

It's technically sound but it's missing soul. Some of the lyrics are AWFUL. The songs are much better live, especially BBN.

I'm not putting post death spin on it. That thread was retarded while he was still alive.

Here are the dumbest statements ever posted post-Jay: http://forums.viachicago.org/topic/39882-wilco-the-lawsuit-complete-lyrics/

Yeah. Hyperbole or not, sometimes the truth sucks. My honest opinion is the new album is soulless and lacks any inkling of the great stuff wilco produced in the nineties into the millennium. When Jeff takes obvious shots postmortem he opens himself up to hyperbolic ridicule. We'll see what the future holds for wilco and specifically Jeff's conscience. What a sad, sad end to what had previously been a great artistic friendship. Hopefully he can put the ego away and admit Jay helped wilco build a dedicated fan base. Hopefully he'll pay a legitimate tribute to someone who poured his hear

That's a shame he mentioned the baby thing - he's acted like a baby countless times. The band now, although technically sound and still putting out (sort of) good music, has lost the passion, the loose rhythm and the dynamic they had with Bennett. They're essentially soulless. The new lyrics are awful and with each album post Bennett it's almost laughable what's being produced. They still put on a great show. I think of them as a live band only. I don't know if anyone who follows Wilco will admit to preferring the last three albums more than Being There, Summerteeth, or YHF. If they do

They played at The Parish (formerly The Mercury Room) as summerteeth for SXSW one year. What a great venue!

And TheMaker, no doubt above such pedestrian, shameful, and know it all responses has summarized the entirety of the thread for the swine of VC. TheMaker is, I guess, Alanis Morisette.

I believe 50k is the magic number for the type of court case it will be in illinois. It basically says that 50k is the bare minimum but including court fees and actual judgment it may be well more than that. http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/05/05/Wilco.pdf

I am going to make you insanely jealous. Also, I realize what a huge prick I'm being about no proper san fran shows after I type this. I just moved out here from Chicago - I made some great auditorium shows and all the residency shows, I also just saw them in Milwaukee and have tix to the greek. I really have nothing to complain about but I will definitely give LA shit when I can! After all, they steal our water.

Usually when I'm in LA I try and catch a good band playing, not so much a scene. That being said ALL of the shows I've been to are filled with pretentious clowns who dress up prettier than I do on Easter sunday. I find it hard to believe everyone at the El Rey when Built to Spill played were all out-of-towner scene searchers dressed in nice clothes at a rock show. But perhaps they were. For instance in Austin, if you go to a show everyone is sort of King of the Hill, laid back, casual, happy go lucky. That's a product of the environment and you can only narrow down a "scene" as you're

Nothing. it's just weird. I'm all for it.

I'm just bitter because the dodgers beat the giants last night. There are parts of LA that are awesome. But mostly the scene there makes me nauseous. That being said they are hitting berzerkeley and saratoga (winery show?!). I just caught John Prine at the Warfield and would love to see Wilco play that venue.

The fact they're playing three LA shows and not even stopping in San Fran for a duo, or even trio, tells me they lost their roots. Everyone knows LA is for the soulless wannabe wash-ups and those who cling to a claim of fame built on lies and plastic surgery. It's a sad day. In the words of the late great Bill Hicks, this about sums it up: "LA is the home of the pedestrian right of way law. What this law is, is if a pedestrian decides to cross the road, anywhere or any time on the road, every car has to stop and let this person cross the road. Yes, 'cos only in LA does common cour

Because of this, Wilco should work with Robert Schnieder of apples in stereo fame to produce their next record. IMHO I don't think anyone matches his production style in creating a story if you will out of music. 1st to last track on all of his production work, to me, tells a story. I know this will probably never happen but that would be a very interesting mix. Probably really poppy though.

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