Shug

Don't worry too much. In Tempe the crowd all stood up when they took the stage, quickly sat down for One Sunday Morning, and then were back on their feet for the entire rest of the show from the second song on. There were no rude talkers near us. People were listening attentively and responding with enthusiasm for nuances and details in the performances. No one was too drunk or shouting out and being obnoxious nor were they fist-pumping and rocking out, so if that is what you are wanting, you might be disappointed, but really it was just about a perfect crowd, IMO. You never know what you're gonna get, but even in seated theaters, Wilco's crowd is overall young and hip enough to want to stand up to enjoy the show pretty much all the way through. It was that way at the Ryman last year, too.

6 blocks from Grant Grill to Copley Hall.

We are thinking of hitting the toney Grant Grill at the US Grant Hotel for happy hour which goes from 4-7. Its fancy and expensive, but the food and drink are reportedly excellent in the fine dining style. Maybe not that rock 'n' roll but we ARE going to the symphony hall for the show, so maybe its not such a weird juxtaposition. Walking distance to the venue, too.

I'll be in San Diego, too and Tempe the night before. Also the third night in LA at LA Theatre! Really stoked!

Any spot you guys are meeting up at before the San Diego show for a pre-show drink?

I changed after Brent died. It has been difficult to think of rabid Dead fans in a positive way ever since his death due to the following experience. In July 1990, I was vacationing alone in Germany, Switzerland and France. When I was in Frankfurt, Germany hanging out in the area with all of the beer gardens, I had a bizarre encounter. I had hair halfway down my back at the time, so I can only assume that I looked like a Deadhead. Why? Because I was suddenly accosted by a German dude and he said, "Have you heard the news, brother?". I replied, "What news?". He put a hand on my shoulder, looked me in the eye and said, "We've lost Brent". "Brent who?". "Brent Mydland". With a confused look, I replied "What are you talking about?". With an incredulous look, he said, "The Dead's keyboardist has died, man.". I don't recall exactly

what I said but it was something to the effect of "Oh. That's too bad. Sorry, dude". He walked away and appeared to spread the word.

 

I hadn't thought of that in years but it is quite a clear memory. I wish that I knew why he spoke to me in English rather than German. I guess that I not only looked like a Deadhead but like an American Deadhead. What a weirdo. From then on, it has been tough for me to take the whole Grateful Dead scene seriously. Definitely they were/are some talented musicians but Jesus!

 

Wasn't this guy just trying to reach out for connection in a time of sorrow to someone whom he mistakenly though he had something in common with? Sounds like a pretty normal human reaction to me. One aspect of Deadhead culture is that the concept of friend and family was much broader than it is for most Anglo-Westerners. If that makes Deadheads weirdos in your eyes, then I guess that says alot about you.

What did he say about Sunshine Daydream? (can't play it at work right now)

I dig Country Disappeared and You Never Know

Kathleen Edwards - next week!

 

This one is sounding really good! Listening to some live versions right now, I like her new touring band.

http://www.cbc.ca/radio2/cod/concerts/20120114kathl

i think Shug just Shrugged.

no no dude, i'm totally with you on this. just quite trying have no lead guitar sounds better than all the folks he's had in the past. actual solos ended with jerry. everyone else who's filled that spot since then has just noodled at best.

 

this has been so frustrating, especially in ratdog. why is mark karan even in the band? anyway, i love listening to bobby's angular rhythm playing and think it would have been cool if he had selectively rehearsed some dead tunes for ratdog or rearranged them for a new context...bob, piano, sax, bass, drums or something. (i know they had a sax player for a while...)

 

I gotcha.

 

sorry, sometimes i just get pissy about this stuff. all of them have just totally lost their way since jerry died.

 

Yeah for the most part the bands from former GD members have not been that great to my ears EXCEPT for the Phil and Friends lineup with Jimmy Herring and Warren Haynes. Sometimes the jamming and blazing dual lead guitars sounded as good as the Dead in 1973. i believe Phil, out of all the GD members, was and is the foremost proponent of spontaneous improv and jamming, with his musique concrete and jazz background. I thought that quality was readily apparent in that particular Phil and Friends lineup. They played some monster shows in 2000, New year's eve that year was killer. I'd rather see that line up than anything Further or The Dead or The Other Ones or whatever they called themselves did. In someways I feel that Phil is the true remaining torchbearer for the spirit of the Grateful Dead.

He made the same reference when people were groaning about the Feist duet on "You and I."

 

He must read this board, how else would he know in such detail about the things Wilco fans complain about?

I love this quote, hilarious!

 

Re: Capitol City A: It's really divisive. It seems like some people really hate that song, and I don't understand what could make people hate something like that. I could see someone saying, "Ehh, I don't like it." But hate it? Really? You know, we did put 15 minutes of noise on an album one time. That, you're OK with. But a nice little jaunty music hall number is where you draw the line, huh? All right (laughs).

Nice. I was also moved -- from far right, row D to dead freaking center, row C (!!!)

 

The show supposedly sold out; I wonder what the deal is with all these moves. Not complaining, that's for sure... so stoked -- seated or not, I think I'll have a good time!

 

I prefer third row center to front row off center (seat 512, thats 12 seats to the right of the aisle). If you wanna be front row, I'll trade ya

Yeah it baffles me that there seems to be a far greater response from Crowes fans to the Chris Robinson Brotherhood than there is to Rich's album and tour. I think Rich's album is fantastic and while the CRB is okay, its waaaay too hippie jam band mid temp shuffles for my current tastes. Unfortunately, I don't think Rich would have very good turnouts in Europe. Many Crowes fans seem to still have a problem with his vocals (which are much improved, to my ears) and most seem uninterested in Rich's solo stuff (based on what I've read on the message boards and the folks I know personally). Meanwhile CRB has been touring non-stop and selling out lots of shows multiple times in the same cities. I guess there will always be a bunch of fans starving for anything that sounds like and/or is connected to the Grateful Dead (and I was a Deadhead for many years).

Ticketmaster just upgraded my ticket for LA Theater in ORCH Center Row R to front row off center to the right! I guess they needed a place to put the sound and light board. Stoke! Only eleven days to Tempe, YEAH!

nugs.net does what you are talking about. Its mostly jam bands on there, but I think Wilco has a big enough following of folks who really want multiple live recordings that it would likely be financially feasible, although I really have no idea of the details of the business side of this venture.

_{No one gave any money, they just pledged it. They only collect the pledges if the goal is met. Rich's manager had a long post to the public on Rich's Facebook page explaining the whole situation. He talked Rich into the Kickstarter campaign and Rich reluctantly went along, apparently. Rich's manager has quit over this incident. I'd guess that Rich is really embarrassed and regrets the whole deal. I wonder if the European tour is off now? It doesn't seem that financially feasible for him to do his own headlining tour over there, its too expensive and he just doesn't have enough of a draw on his own. Maybe he should just stick to the States for awhile?}

I want to hear the Richard Thompson/Crazy Horse version that Nels described! Is that the same as the Sade slow jam version?

This ticket is now sold.

http://www.tristudio...ex/detail/id/15

 

this sounds pretty cool. no lead guitar. that would be very cool to my ears.

 

different stokes, I guess. No lead guitar or no good lead guitar, for me, has been the main problem plaguing every Bob Weir side/solo project with the exception of Kingfish a long time ago. If there ain't no lead guitar, I'm just not interested.

Yeah, Rich on Kickstarter? Weird move, in my view. I agree with ya, Bob Lamonta, its embarrasing. I LOVE Rich's new album and the live show was excellent when I saw it, but asking fans to help out with gas money just seems kinda pathetic for someone who's enjoyed Rich's level of success. Don't the royalty checks he still gets for all the times old Crowes songs get played on jukeboxes and radio give him enough money to not have to ask his fans for more?

Wilco

Los Angeles Theatre, Los Angeles, CA

Fri, Jan 27, 2012 07:00 PM

 

 

Seat location: section ORCHR, row Z6, seat 514

 

$63

 

Let me know if you wanna go. shug909@yahoo.com

Another: Richard Thompson (I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I've always wondered if Knopfler took some of his sound from Thompson's) The opening guitar notes of The Calvary Cross are the epitome of RT's electric guitar tone, fucking beautiful!

I saw Midnight In Paris last night and I really liked it too. I haven't seen many of Woody's movies for the past few years, but this one is pretty good amongst those in the lighthearted category yet it still has some philosophical depth to it regarding a life path and the double-edged sword of romanticizing past eras. My Golden Age would've been the late 60s through the mid 70s, probably in LA, for all the great rock music, live and in the studio, being created in that time period. Might've been fun to live the rock 'n' roll lifestyle for a few years, too!

Rich Robinson - Through A Crooked Sun

Circuital - My Morning Jacket

The Whole Love - Wilco

Pressure and Time - Rival Sons

Revelator - Tedeschi Trucks Band

 

Biggest Disappointment: Mockingbird Time - The Jayhawks Letting Mark Olson take over the band ruined the band, IMO.

 

I forgot about JJ Grey and Mofro - Brighter Days, a live album and DVD. I'd put that one in the #4 slot.

 

Another record that hasn't been mentioned this thread that I have yet to check out:

 

Jesse Sykes and The Sweet Hereafter - Marble Son

Yeah, I don't think very much of the Last DJ overall, it has a bunch of songs that I think are subpar for Petty and several that are just OK, but it also has Like A Diamond and Dreamville, which are two of his very best ballads, IMO. Those two songs alone make the album worth having. I also dig Have Love Will Travel for lots of reasons, but maybe the most for a lyric that just hits home so deeply for me: "How 'bout a cheer for all those bad girls and the boys that play that rock 'n' roll/ they love it like you love Jesus/ it does the same thing to their soul"

 

The music is pretty good on Lost Children and Can't Stop The Sun, too.