Sir Stewart Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 - Merged - carry on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 She and he choose their freedom when making decisions that could produce a baby. If the consequences of their actions result in pregnancy than their personal choices are no longer just personal, the choices now revolve around the life of another. Sure you can claim tax relief for those nine months. However, Doug does not think so. He even thinks babes should be working until the day they pop the kid out. His argument for that is they can answer the phone at home while pregnant, why not work? And what of babies that result despite she and he taking all possible precautions? Contraceptives are not foolproof and come pre-packed with a failure rate. Are you suggesting that even contraceptive using married couples should abstain from sex altogether unless they are prepared to have a child? Whose world are we living in now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 c'mon. if you're going to say i'm 'materialistic' because i 'worry' about my (more importantly, may family's) financial well-being and that i can't be concerned w/ the enviornment as well...that's nuts and, again, you are making this a clear-cut black/white scenario. even though it may not be to the degree that you want to see and, most likely, where it needs to continue to improve to...are you implying that we are not a more enviornmentally conscious society than we were even 5-10 years ago?! consumption will go up as populations increase...throw some tangible facts at me on exactly how much of that is over-consumption? i'm not saying it isn't happening, but i'd like you to provide some of that empirical, iron-clad, scientific data your so fond of. otherwise, it's just you stating what you think and, contrary to your tone...that ain't gospel. The IPCC's report on Climate Change would be a good place to start. Hundreds if not thousands of books have been written on the subject of species loss related to deforestation, habitat loss, etc. I would recommend, well, just about anything by E.O Wilson. Wikipedia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 However, Doug does not think so. He even thinks babes should be working until the day they pop the kid out. His argument for that is they can answer the phone at home while pregnant, why not work? Wow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hugo Chavez has introduced legislation making abortion & SUV ownership compulsory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hugo Chavez has introduced legislation making abortion & SUV ownership compulsory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 You are aware that women hold jobs that are not secretarial in nature Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 You're arguing with an alias who talks to his dog and you're questioning what he's aware of? True enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Golyadkin Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 True enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Well done. I have my moments, rare as they are.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 the uncertain future Key words. Fact of the matter is, nobody knows what is going to happen. The Earth has gone through rapid cooling and warming stages millions of times, and it is in one of those right now. I don't know what impact we are having, and here's the big news: neither do you. It is all conjecture. There are scientists out there who don't believe in global warming. Should they be ignored? Climatology is a science that is still in it's infancy. Much of the future forecasting is based on outdated computer models. It is next to impossible to accurately predict anything when it comes to the climate, because there is so much to take into account. I'm glad there was no mass media during 1816 (The Year Without a Summer). The fucking media blitz would have been unbearable. Do I believe we need to stop consuming so much gas? Yes. MOstly because when we run out, we are fucked. Do I think we need more environmental awareness. Absolutely. The world is a beautiful place and there are so many wonders that we don't even know about and I don't want those dissapearing. But we need to think long and hard about how and why we are making changes. 10 years ago, we were running around scared as hell that CFCs were destroying the ozone layer, and that would cause the world to heat up. Now we are worried about the atmosphere becoming filled with gas, and that will cause the world to heat up. 70 years ago, it was lead. I'm more of the opinion that GW is mostly a natural event. But then, I'm just a crazy, racist, homophobic, registered republican who hates single mothers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 who hates single mothers. that's a shame. experience will show that they put out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Golyadkin Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I have my moments, rare as they are.... For me that book was quite a terrifying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'm glad there was no mass media during 1816 (The Year Without a Summer). The fucking media blitz would have been unbearable.I'm surprised you care either way, considering 1816 was like 300 years before you were born. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'm surprised you care either way, considering 1816 was like 300 years before you were born. I'm surprisingly empathetic towards the plight of farmes in the early 19th century. I could say it is my biggest flaw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Sorry, bobbo, the answer we were looking for was: Dog years or people years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 And what of babies that result despite she and he taking all possible precautions? Contraceptives are not foolproof and come pre-packed with a failure rate. Are you suggesting that even contraceptive using married couples should abstain from sex altogether unless they are prepared to have a child? Whose world are we living in now? first off, i'm amazed you brought this topic back into this particular thread. secondly, you refuse to throw adoption into the mix and embryo donation to fertility clinics into the mix whenever you bring it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Golyadkin Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 first off, i'm amazed you brought this topic back into this particular thread. secondly, you refuse to throw adoption into the mix and embryo donation to fertility clinics into the mix whenever you bring it up. There are reasonable options that outweigh denying life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Golyadkin Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 And what of babies that result despite she and he taking all possible precautions? Contraceptives are not foolproof and come pre-packed with a failure rate. Are you suggesting that even contraceptive using married couples should abstain from sex altogether unless they are prepared to have a child? Whose world are we living in now? Wow now that is an assumption. But a correct one, I believe that unless you are planning on having children than you should not be having sex. Muskrat and I don't agree with this ideal. Muskrat likes to hump anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 That's sort of boring, isn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 That's sort of boring, isn't it?What, humping everything? Yeah, it does seem like it would get old after a while, unless you're Jason Mewes or a dog named Doug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 What, humping everything? Yeah, it does seem like it would get old after a while, unless you're Jason Mewes or a dog named Doug. Will, in all fairness, Mewes doesn't really have any other option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Who is Will? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I hate you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Will, in my defense, it's probably 50 degrees colder here than where you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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