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A.B.!!!!

also, they're the same chords, Halcyon.

I know, it's all A major but even the rhythm is similar. Not sayin' anyone copied anyone just saying sometimes I heard War on War and I start singing that Elliott Smith song (which title escapes me at the moment).

war on war next

Good call

Does anyone else get reminded of an Elliott Smith and also the first song from Andrew Bird's last album when they hear this song?

i heard a hint of thanks i get....maybe?

Yeah I heard that too.

My audio is hiccuping every once in awhile but it's not too bad.

I'm getting the photos with firefox on a mac.

I realized it's cause I haven't updated my QT in quite awhile (if I do, ProTools will quit working, oh noes!!) luckily my PC has a sub attached anyways.

anyone with a mac getting photos?

Nope, which is crazy wack cause you'd think a mac would work better with quicktime.

I got pictures on my desktop PC (with audio) and just audio on my macbook. Hmmm!

My favorite eastern team, Montreal, came back from being down 5-0 tonight.

http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service...=2&gnum=904

Okay, I probably have more recording experience then most people on this message board so let me clear things up. First of all, tape isn't the be all and end all of "analog warmth"... far from it. Compressors, EQs, the board, and especially pre-amps are equally as important.

Second, yes, tape isn't as common as it was in 1970 but I really doubt a band like Wilco would have problems finding tape.

Third, I can't say for certain but I imagine what Tweedy meant was, he sat down (either alone or with various band members) and arranged the songs on ProTools... probably sequencing out drums and key parts using MIDI and software plug ins (maybe he had some outboard gear for this process, but I doubt it). You don't even need to play keyboards, you can just draw in the notes you want to be played. This is a process A LOT of arrangers/composers do today, though ProTools isn't the best way to do it, Logic has a much better MIDI sequencer but ProTools is more "user friendly", especially to someone like Jeff, who doesn't have the time to sit down and learn a complicated program.

Also, to whoever said you can record on tape and dump into ProTools, this is true, but you can also sync a tape machine with something like ProTools (or Logic... or RADAR or even another tape machine!) and use them together, they did this on Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, I believe. That leads to my next point, the main advantage of digital recording is NOT the ammount of tracks, like I said, you can easily sync two tape machines together and have 48 tracks (I sincerely doubt that any song on AGIB required 48 tracks). The main reasons it's popular is

A] it's convenient

B] it's cheap (tape is expensive)

C] good signal to noise ratio (i.e. no tape hiss)

D] and most importantly.... THE UNDO BUTTON!!!!!!!!!

Grr! What a day for my internet to go out. If anyone recorded the stream of this, let me know!

I've never met any (regular) VC posters. For all you guys know I could be a fictional character created by a computer!

Jay took Cars Can't Escape with him too so I'm holding out hope...

There's an AGIB era recording of it.

Okay, sorry if this has been brought up but anyone else think it's more then a coincidence that Elsa's (Sayid's lady) boss called her half an hour early, roughly the same amount of time difference the island seems to have from the rest of the world???

This news sucks

I'd rather they have a break in the season then wait 11 months. I hope they don't scrap the Almeda story line.

I don't know if calling Episode 3 "kick ass" is appropriate. I mean, sure, the story was good but Hayden's acting is terrible, the dialog was terrible, and it was far too based on CGI. Anakin and Padame's dialog was horrendous... "when we were alone on Naboo with nothing but our love!". Has George Lucas ever even been in a relationship???? I know Star Wars movies have never been known for their great dialog but it's like he gave up on Episode 3.

Oooh, here's where I read about the TV show.

i thought that the tv show they were going to do was going to be live action, or was that something else? (obviously with cgi too, as the man can't get his dick out of disc drive for long enough to see how shit it all looks, but with some real people in it none the less).

Yeah, I heard they were going to do a bunch of live action Star Wars shows about minor characters. They were suppose to be darker and not as childish, kind of like Firefly was.

I Memphis Moon is not on Sojouners, but the rest of Fading Trails is on there. None of What Comes After the Blues is on there as you said. The DVD that comes with the box set is awesome. Way too short though. As far as Songs Ohia goes, I like the Lioness and Didn't It Rain. The MEC album is great, but has some real bad tunes, like the one with the country guy singing and that woman that sings with Jason. She can be a bit annoying.

 

Any similar bands to this out there?

 

Craig

Memphis Moon is track two of The Sun Session EP !

I actually really like The Old Black Hen. Peoria Lunch Box Blues is good too, I just don't think whats her face has a flattering voice for that song.

I remember Much Music playing Knives Out and Pyramid Song a lot.

Fading Trails is entirely made up of songs from Sojourner (none of the recordings from What Comes After The Blues are on Sojourner though, contrary to what might have previously been implied). If you like the country rock styles then Nashville Moon from that boxset is your best bet, I think it's Molina's strongest 'rock' effort since the first MEC album. Once you get into that I recommend checking out the solo albums and maybe some Songs: Ohia albums like Didn't it Rain, The Lioness, and Ghost Tropic. That style of Molina's work took me a long time to get into but it helped a lot when I found Nashville Moon and became more familiar with his more "listener friendly" albums.

The Black Ram from Sojourner is also very good (Andrew Bird guests!!) but I imagine that might be some of the songs from Fading Trails that you're having trouble getting into.

Damn, Molina has got A LOT of albums. Let me count... 16ish! Not including tons of 7" and EPs and that album with Will Oldham.

Fave in a sea of faves:

Songs: Ohia - Mi Sei Apparso Come Un Fantasma from 2001.

That is SUCH a good album, I really hope it gets re-released. Once I asked my Italian friend what it meant, I think she said "You appeared to me as a ghost".

Meh, if it will help introduce younger people to Radiohead I think it's a good thing. To be honest, when I first was getting into Radiohead, it'd be nice to have some sort of compilation to help me out.

I'm not too hip on how the recording process translates to the release, but I seem to recall reading that summerteeth is a digital recording and a vinyl pressing isn't going to sound any better, and that for anything other than collectors value (which we all know is $$$$) doesn't do much good. Can anyone verify if this is true?

Well that depends...

Red Book Audio (aka all the audio CD's you've ever bought) has a sampling rate of 44.1 kHz and a bit depth of 16bits (if you don't get what that means, 44.1/16 is CD quality, anything higher is higher quality then CD). As far as I know, Summerteeth was recorded digitally (and mixed on ProTools). Now, if I was to record an album today, I would at least go 44.1/24 and then take it back to 44.1/16 before it hits audio CD, that way if there's ever a DVD or vinyl pressing, it'd be at least a bit better then CD quality. I wasn't engineering in 1999 (I was busy being a kid) and frankly, I'm not exactly sure how easy it'd be to store an entire album that was any larger then 44.1/16. So, I would say, that Summerteeth was likely recorded at CD quality. However! Jay Bennett is a pretty smart dude, it's very possible that the album was recorded at 44.1/24 or even 88.2 or 192 (did Digidesign have the 192 out yet? I've seen old 88.2s from back in the day, but no 192). In that case, Summerteeth would be great on vinyl. If that wasn't the case, you'd be getting the worst qualities of CD and the worst of vinyl.

The sad part is, just from talking to people, I don't think a lot of engineers realize that the CD is going to be out and that in a few years when terrabyte harddrives become the norm that (hopefully!!!) whatever file we're using (the equivalent of an mp3, flac, etc) will be 24 bits and probably 96 kHz or something like that (like a DVD, which, if optical media survives for music, will probably be what it'll be released on). A lot of albums recorded in the past 10 years (and still being recorded now) are probably only at "red book audio" quality, which means that in a few decades, they won't be up too snuff with pre-digital music being re-released and the music of the day. However we will get some totally awesome re-releases of albums recorded at a high quality. ....I am dreaming of the day when 192/32 will be the norm.

THAT'S MY RANT FOR TODAY, hope you enjoyed it folks.

If anyone ever meets Jay, they should ask what Summerteeth was recorded at.

What about The Beatles? Didn't their music change the world? Remember, Beatlemania was a world wide thing, not just in America. I think it had a huge effect on the youth and in turn shaped them as adults.

I really liked some of those songs on Rabbit Fur Coat but every time I think of Jenny Lewis I can't help but recall standing in line at the Wilco concert listening to the teenage girls behind me going "Oh my gawd that Jenny Lewis album was sooooooo good" "I sooooo know!!!!11 Her song Handle With Care was soooo good! The guy from Death Cab sings on it!!!!! Oh my gawd!!!". Not pleasant memories but I guess that's not Jenny's fault.

I voted for my bro Romney.