lost highway

5 hours ago, Chez said:

Try this and follow to the official store.

 

Wilco - Cruel Country (lnk.to)

Got it. My work wifi seems to be filtering things. Sorry boss.

The link on Wilcoworld doesn't work for me. Anyone else?

What if they played The Hideout?

I'm pretty sure the package that holds the CDs is the exact same book that comes with the LPs. 

Tweedy talks in the interview in the liner notes about how badly JB wanted to rack up as many credits as possible by overdubbing endlessly. In the end the songs went through so many processes they were unable to accurately attribute every element to its creator with everything from Ken Coomer drums towards the beginning of the process, to Jim O'Rourke overdubs towards the end. For that reason it's always been credited to a list of names without specifics. "Wilco is/was..."

^ Yes to all of this! What secrets are in the AGiB vault?

Are there Ken Coomer drum tracks in any of this stuff?

I keep thinking there was a piece of promo material where Jeff ran down the parameters of each disc, but I can't seem to find it. I strongly suspect Unified Theory is the JB version of YHF, but that might not be entirely true.

30 minutes ago, chuckrh said:

I listened to the Pageant show today. Weird listening to the band without either Jay or the current line-up. I think Jay was gone by then but I could be wrong.

I'm 98% sure you're right. I've seen videos from this era. Leroy and Glenn had their hands full.

This is fascinating. Right now I only have access to the Unified Theory version on Spotify, but had to pony up and get the CDs so I could hear the other discs.

The early version of Hummingbird is straight out of the multiverse. 

Early Poor Places sounds like a Being There song, and I kind of love it.

I kind of want to smack the synthesizer out of Bennett's hands on Pot Kettle Black. But we must respect that these are all of the explorations they never thought they'd share until they got to the ideal version.

22 minutes ago, Beltmann said:

Today I thought I heard a guy driving down Main Street blaring "Kamera" and singing along maniacally as if it were 2002 and he was hearing such sonic gold for the very first time. Then I glanced in the rearview mirror and realized it was me. Phone my family, tell 'em I'm lost.

I seriously can't wait to play every version of Camera back to back. It will be like a master class in production and arrangement.

Company In My Back!

That's the one setlist pick I'm jealous of having seen the night before.

Solid outing. It was interesting for the devoted Denverite to see Wilco 3 years ago, indoors, heavy into Ode to Joy, then outdoors with a very different vibe at RR.

My friend and I both stopped 30 seconds into US Blues wondering "What song is this?!". 30 minutes later us in the car on Spotify, "Yep. It's the Dead." I prefer the Wilco version 

On 8/21/2022 at 10:02 AM, Jack1956 said:

The big 11lp box now only $146 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09Y9JBNTN?tag=shtv-20

 

That's so cheap it's hard to figure how it'd make 11lps profitable. Maybe Amazon only wanted shelf space for x amount and they're hot to unload slow moving copies.

^ Love it. Awesome.

I like that of all albums, that dude is all in on AGIB. Radical.

So I imagine the digital release will be equally delayed?

^ Yeah, and producers like Burnett, Lanois and Rick Rubin seem most useful at helping artists get out of their own way, to get down to the basics, and to let the songs flow. Kind of artist-whisperers, zen guru type of guys. It so happens that Jeff is one of the least needy songwriters in this regard. He's literally written books about how to achieve these frames of mind.

Again, I don't think the guys need a producer, and I'm pretty sure they don't want one, but as a matter of mash-up curiosity in addition to the Nigel Godrich idea, I'd be curious to see what would happen if they worked with David Fridmann.

Back to The Whole Love, I totally agree. I remember Jeff leaving an unfinished thought in an interview, something about how they took that album for granted or something. I'm not sure what his relationship with that album is, but I'm curious because it's one of their highlights IMHO.

1 hour ago, DiamondClaw said:

I've been thinking about this lately. On the one hand, Wilco has never really had a true outside producer. O'Rourke would be the closest thing to that. And they don't need direction or anything. On the other hand, I do think Jeff needs someone to challenge him on some of his ideas or at least play devil's advocate with him, to objectively tell him to reconsider some of his first-blush choices (lyrics, vocals, arrangements). Tom Schick is a talented guy, but Jeff would benefit from a shaking things up sound-wise a bit, even if that means a more labor-intensive project.

 

There's something to this in that Tom Schick has been pretty firmly in the engineer role at the loft. He faithfully captures the sounds being made and uses his skills to present them in the way the artist/producer directs. Since that's Jeff the basic vibe of the presentation, the sonics, is coming from Jeff. I'm sure some of it is collaborative, it always is, but Schick is there to accomplish what the people he's working with are asking for.

You could also point to The Whole Love which is the only Wilco record co-produced by Pat Sansone. There is a different kind of meticulousness to that record. Pat has slightly more baroque (using this loosely) sensibilities, he's more of a Pet Sounds to Jeff's Highway 61 common sense.

Never thought I'd catch Margo Price. Opening for Wilco at Red Rocks, good enough!

On 6/1/2022 at 12:15 PM, tongue-tied lightning said:

great to see her back making music after 6 years away

Yes! I didn't even know about this. Thanks guys.

I think Wilco needed a producer when YHF was a messy pile of layers in want of direction and they were lost. Jim O'Rourke helped them find their record.

These days they seem to know exactly where they're headed. Whether it's to your liking is entirely up to you, but I don't think they're looking for someone to provide direction.

8 hours ago, 5hake1t0ff said:

 

Just a shot in the dark, but my guess is this is mostly related to the YHF rollout. Jeff mentioned on the Kreative Kontrol podcast that they had been "in line" for years for all the vinyl needed for it. So I get the sense they're sensitive to the shortage and its effect on other bands trying to release around the same time. In other words, my guess is they will only release and promote the vinyl version of CC after YHF reissue has hit the shelves.

This makes all kinds of sense. Also you wouldn't want to build up to the YHF reissue in order to have it eclipse the news around a new physical release. It would be better to let one record have it's moment of hype, then roll out the other on it's heels. Their publicist will thank them for it.

Yeah in other interviews he mentioned that there was already an album worth in there. On his substack this week he said he didn't have any news that he could talk about 'yet'. Which could be anything (or nothing) but part of me imagined the boys manically releasing a double album followed by a single album in the same year. Far too much to ask but a fan can dream 

2 hours ago, AndyT said:

Really good article and great CD

How different are the versions from the ITMWLY single?

The story about Trump fighting the secret service for the wheel of the Presidential limousine was priceless.

3 minutes ago, CrisBcn said:

 

PS: By the way, the canting is "oeee, oeee, oeee, oeee" instead of olé (that's used for bullfighting chant, and we are not that keen on the matter in this region of Spain).

I did not know that. Is it the same at futbol games?

I suppose the toreadores no hablan Catalan!

Back on topic: another nice recap bbop!

1 hour ago, TCP said:

If you pre-ordered, check your e-mails for an early version of Kamera.

It's on YouTube for anyone who didn't preorder.

Much crunchier and kind of slick version. I wonder if that's Glenn on there.

22 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

You can enjoy our Scotish/Welsh joshing, but just watch how we unite in a celtic shield-wall of defiance once any English get involved.

 

BTW, the Welsh are, or course, the original 'Britons'. The English are merely recent uncouth interlopers into our ancient ancestral lands. And where would they have been without us at Agincourt? Answer me that!

Excellent.