ShuckOwens

The political discourse here is definately elevated when none of the participants question the established talking points.

The only possible evidence that vote theft is no longer being propagated is if Obama wins the election, let's face it.

I'm so there. I'll start off the festivities by disemboweling my objectionable white self.

Will we be gathering to protest the mere existence of the Republican party, or to try & levitate the building? Both?

I stand both corrected and humbled. Thank you.

Again, like much of what flies around these political threads, I find myself wondering if there is actual proof of this. Forgive me for asking... I know it's silly. Set me straight please.

An astute observation, proving that the party of Abraham Lincoln has become the party of white supremecists, of course.

Tasteful and respectful. Another great VC post. I dare say that anyone who throws out slogans like "No blood for oil", "Faux News" etc. as unquestionable truths to anchor message board banter is the true "asshole".

You're going to rely on a blog to tell you what Fox News is all about? That's kind of like not keeping up with current events or not studying history because "Eddie Vedder tells me how to vote."

Wilco fans hate the Fox News Channel. Check... got it.

As a professional broadcast designer serving a couple of national networks, I feel qualified to extend my pity to you if you believe this to be an un-tampered with screen grab.

Question: will Barry rock the Acropolis harder than Yanni? Prediction: Nope.

Suspicions are fine... healthy... smart. Stating it as fact with no definitive proof however, something different. I don't post here oftten, but what I read is a whole lot of people stating things as fact with no definitive proof. Seldom does someone state something like: "well, I think Bush may have lied to get us into this mess." There's good news though... I like Wilco, and have been attending live shows to see Jeff perform since '92.

Please do... I won't skip class, I promise perfezzor. Just as long as "lesson #1" includes your definitive proof that George Bush lied to this country to drag us into a war.

Of course, revisionist history aside, there were many nations and US lawmakers who believed the same intelligence reports.

I have not suggested that President Bush was 100% perfect with the war. Might I suggest that the chief role for bombers at this point might be in Afghanistan? If you are also opposed to action in Afghanistan, I fear that it may be you who has been in a coma. I totally get your point about the B-2's, though girlfriend. They're actually running a brain scan on you as they pass over. Dick Cheney wants to know your thoughts.

Unfortunately, you've referred me to an opinion column, but thanks for the recommendations anyhow. I'll try to watch more Olbermann and Maher as well.

I don't remember stating that war is a pleasant endeavor. Posting grizzly visceral photos of dead bodies in a war zone does not "show me light". I come from a family of Marines... one of which never recovered from the mental and physical pounding he received on Okinawa in WWII. I'm proud of my family members who served so that I can have the luxury of debating liberal big-thinkers on the Wilco message board. I'm proud of the job that our volunteer military has done in a mission that is brutal... a mission they believe in. I don't need a lesson from a teenage fan on the Wilco message board.

Wow. I googled "Bush lied", and landed on a streaming moive called "Loose Change". Shall I believe it first, and seek proof later? The power and oil schtick is your opinion. Bush lied... this is a statement that requires proof to become fact.

Proof is silly? Now that is scary.

Did I say that John Edwards is on the ticket? No. All I did was put up a picture when someone was claiming that scumbag politicians were exclusively Republicans.

Proof please. Lying about lying = lying.