unclepunk

I tried to log out gracefully before, then got mad. My fault. You all are entitled to your opinions, but I think that attacking other people on the board for their opinions is stupid. I hope you appreciate that it was tough arguing with this many people. Anyways, best of luck with your interest in music. I appreciate your thoughtful opinions, but still remain unmoved. Cheers!

Sorry, not on here. Thanks for your interest though.

Damn, you are getty nasty again. Fuck off.

Well, if so, thank you, "...." I think owning an independent label is a success, Earl. Anyways, thanks for some of the responses on here. I just wanted to say my piece. Maybe somebody listened. Wah-wah.

I own an independent label and have played in independent rock bands all over the U.S. for the last 11 years. Of course this issue is important and I think I have an educated experience with it. Going to see a band or hearing them on the radio is quite a different step from selling your art to VW. By the way, I think I'm debating with about 20 people on here right now. I guess I won't find much support. 'Nuff said.

Yes, and so have you. Those bands are no longer a part of fans, they are given up to money, greed and power. The less bands that sell out, the less corporations co-opt the lives of their fans. At least some bands have the ethics to say no. There are very few left, though. By the way...I think I'm about the only one writing on here with this opinion???

Well, la, la, la! Wooh! Wilco putting a song in a commercial hurts me (and you) as long time fans but completely lessening their art and making it meaningless. What about one of their songs that meant so much to you and now you get to hear about cars, tires and financing. The commercialization totally lessens the meaning and, overtime, in cases such as "Like A Rock", become the only thing that you associate with the song.

I can't believe that you all are justifying people selling something beautiful and powerful--art, a song, or batch of songs to a CAR COMMERCIAL!!! Where's the line? "Did you trade your heroes for ghosts?" Every song they sing is suspect from now and forever. Sorry. Don't tell me to get over it. Get over your justifications.

Thanks for putting this up, since I screwed up my turn on the poll. I do think it should be just yes or no, though. C'mon, doubters! (a.k.a. people with artistic ethics)

Sorry about my confusion. I can delete the whole post if someone puts it into the correct format as a Poll question, please.

Can someone put this in a poll format?

Please choose Yes or No.

They are still playing a part in the machine to be sure. It's definitely not as direct as signing a contract with a completely different company not involved in entertainment for an unrelated product. However, if you want to be completely ethical about all of it, you would be like Fugazi and not even interview in magazines with ads for alchohol or tobacco. It's all a slippery slope, but one big criteria for selling out over the years has been licensing your music for an unrelated product. Neil Young wrote a pretty famous song about it. I think it's easy to see that a line's been crossed

Sexist. Frat boy.

I don't think it is nearly as bad. In cases such as this, artists are not directly selling their music to an unrelated product.