Sun Caught Fire
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And in unrelated new, please file under Philco.... Phil Lesh and his band played Thalia Hall in Chicago Thursday night. They played some great relics from China Cat Sunflower, Dark Star, Uncle Johns Band, Cassidy and Scarlet Begonias. And the encore, of course was Misunderstood. Say wha? Yup Wilco gets covered by Phil Lesh and the Terrapin Family Band. It was a very good cover, all things considered with somewhere around 20 "nothings" Many Deadheads were confused. There were seven of us who were jumping out of our skulls.
Very cool. My bet on this one is a return nod for when Wilco on 10/30/2014 ended their three night run at the Capitol Theater in NY with a crowd sung Ripple knowing Lesh was starting a run the next night among the 30 or so shows Phil did at the Cap in 2014. Would love to hear the Misunderstood.
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I never understand why they release shows that are already amazingly recorded (Cornell '77?!)
I'd love something like SPAC '83 that has never been circulated/available (to my knowledge, at least) in sbd. A fantastic show (the "Dew" alone is an all-time top 5 or less) that the general populace doesn't have a great sounding recording of.....
would love a great recording of the SPAC 83 as i was there for that killer Dew and an overall great show! Definitely in the top 5 or so Dews i saw live.
This "Dancin'" is fantastic, as well (from the free M.I.T. show, "c'mon everybody get up and dance around now"):
https://archive.org/details/gd70-05-06.sbd.gans.94.sbefail.shnf
MIT was the first Dead tape i ever got in the spring of 77 and still one of the best shows they ever played even though a short free outdoor gig. May 1970 is full of amazing Dead shows.
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More likely some multiple nights than larger venues but time will tell. Perhaps a return to Radio City v. The Beacon. My understanding is the year is booked and was by the end of 2018 so maybe before all that pr machine well-deserved additional hype. If they go bigger venues in bigger markets it just becomes that much fun to hit the smaller markets for smaller venues.
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Thanks, your review/thoughts always most welcome.
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See, now I messed up a great release for everybody.
In all seriousness, I'm glad that they got Phil to back off the harmony vocals by more or less replacing his with Donna's. But, damn, man, she had ONE JOB! For someone who was reputed to be a "better" singer than Jerry or Bobby, I just don't see it. She's great in the studio, but live? Even when she supposedly hear herself better, post-hiatus, she's consistently inconsistent.
I wonder how much of it was affected by all those loudly amplified instruments. I'm a singer, so I know what that experience is like - your body trying to be heard above the din of what are essentially loud machines.
Have you guys heard any of the 70s Jerry shows with Donna and Maria Muldaur? Holy fuck, Maria was ten times worse live than the worst of Donna. Like two cats fighting to the death in a burlap sack. Unlistenable.
Jerry and Bobby, for all their flaws, are rarely flat, off-key, pitchy, or whatever. Well, Jerry before the 80s' steep decline, I mean. Even when his voice was shot, though, he still had something remarkably close to perfect pitch.
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I don't recall it being that bad and loved the early and late shows I went to at the Palladium in NYC on November 27, 1977 when Donna and Maria were both there. That said, i always tended to focus 90+% of my attention on JG!
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I can't make the show but sure do love to hear JG doing Catfish John!
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I started seeing the Dead in '80 and I didn't see a Morning Dew until '82 - and the place went nuts. They were a rare treat during the period when I saw lots of shows ('80-'86).
Love the Dew. I was lucky as my first was a massive one 4/15/78 -- the first one since Cornell '77, and did not see my 2nd until exactly 4 years later on 4/15/82. Probably saw about 25 total though as it was played often starting in '87.
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Nice 6CD set coming out from the Garcia camp:
Ordered mine yesterday! I did not attend any of these but one of my San Fran touring buddies says the 1987 show was his favorite JGB show and like me he saw quite a few. Of course now i have to make him a copy! Nice bonus disc with the preorder.
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Unable to make the show and have a single ticket in the 4th row. Send me a message if interested in the ticket. $42.50 plus fees. Englert Theatre in Iowa City tour opener.
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My recollection is the same as Wendy on the focus being the setlist. Since I just got front row tix to see Patterson Hood and Mike Cooley in NY on Saturday, April 20th, odds are very good the Jeff shows will be 4/19 and 20! But hoping for May!
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Wow...nice... I never got that close. Milwaukee Mecca 4/15/1989 i was about 10th row...
I think I was lucky enough to be on rail or first 5 rows about 75-100 times out of the 209 dead shows I saw. I will have to count. An obsession but it's pleasing and I seem to be repeating that approach with Wilco!
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Today and probably for next few days ____ 12 October 1984....Augusta
Did the whole fall tour and that Augusta show easily the best of the tour. On the rail right in front of Jerry both nights. Ah, memories...
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Any talk of when Warmer will be released?
Heard April but may end up being sooner.
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As a one time deadhead, I think the thing that caused me to jump ship was the way other deadheads would use the lyrics the way many Christians use bible verses. No matter the scenario, if there was a group of deadheads around, someone would spout a song lyric as if it was wisdom passed down from on high. And like many Christians, it was too often a smokescreen to hide poor behavior. A lot of the lyrics were good, but It was juggalo level annoying to me. I've tried to convince myself that I'm just being cynical and that this was something that happened organically and was outside of the band's control, but there were shelves full of officially sanctioned Grateful Dead books in every bookstore when the Dead were a going concern (I owned a few of them) that encouraged this type of fandom, and had lyrics as pull quotes on every page. Exactly like what you see in religious books. Coincidentally, this all occurred to me around the same time I gave up Christianity.
I still like the Dead, but that was one aspect of them that I wasn't able to stomach.
I guess it depends on the Deadheads one encounters. What you describe would have driven me crazy but in the 41+ years since the first of my 209 Grateful Dead shows I can report that I never once had a similar experience.it was always much more about the music and the live concert experience than the lyrics, though there are some really good ones of course. 30 years ago since the only time I saw them on New Year's, 12/31/88, and what a blast that was.
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I caught the stream, pretty good performance, Mountain Bed always sounds great. Though, I was really hoping someone would request Gun or Screen Door after reading the parts about them in Jeff's book.
This post seems unnecessarily harsh.
Not at all intended as such, very much just a joke and Mr. Tweedy has poked fun at the BBN requester more than once!
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Would I pay $500 for "uninterrupted eye contact" for Jeff to play Bull Black Nova to me?
I suppose the real question is "would that be just too creepy, even for charity?"
Probably yes.
yeah, it's not like you are already well into creepy territory. No not at all....
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"For this is all a dream we dreamed
One afternoon long ago"
Another slightly more obscure: Tell me a lie and I will swear, I'll swear it's true...
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I've seen a ton of Lovelight's as well, and could have sworn I'd seen Garcia doing background vocals at the climactic ending parts before (not all the time, but at times, and I was not at that JFK show)> Wild.
Listen on the internet archive to the second half of a few you saw and report back!
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On Europe 90 tour Jerry's voice was solid until the Halloween show but was great in Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Paris (one of those Paris shows was an official release, maybe the 30 disc one for 50th anniversary). Jerry did not sing back up on Lovelight when Weir brought it back out. The JFK show is the only one I saw where he sang and I must have seen 25 or so. Might have done it other time(s) but not that I am aware and certainly rarely at best. I also loved the 10/16 Darkstar but no doubt partial as it was my first. The Miami one is stellar.
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If I remember (from tapes), wasn't Jerry's voice pretty shot for those '90 Europe shows? Also, hasn't Jerry always done back up vocals on Lovelight?Like the "shine on me" stuff...?
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9/20/90 was a great show and the final night of the run that year and i had been waiting for China Cat> I know you rider and when they started the second set with Truckin, i was like oh cool start but there goes my getting China Cat> I know you rider but boom they did it right after Truckin'. Saw my first China Cat> I know you rider at MSG in 1979. I beg to differ in suggesting it was the peak of the post Brent years as i dont think it was even the best post Brent show at MSG and one example would be the 1991 show with Branford. I went to 7 of the shows in Europe in October, 1990 and i thought at least 2 if not 3 were even better than the MSG run as Bruce got increasingly comfortable with playing in the band. Also agree with prior poster that 6/17/91 was a magical show and we were right up front for that one and another show i saw was also great on 6/14 in DC that got an official release. Also loved 7/7/89 noted above as a great show and the only time out of 209 Grateful Dead shows that i saw Jerry singing back up vocals on Lovelight like in the old days. The Alpine Valley 3 night run in 89 probably my favorite ones of that year, though i did not make Hampton for the Warlocks and among the 5 at Continental Arena i saw i thought 10/16 was a really great one too.
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Wilco will be playing at Azkena Rock Festival - June 22 & 23, 2019 in Vitoria-Gasteiz
This festival was announced many weeks ago but nothing else announced since then.
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Thanks so much bbop, 3,000 miles away but felt like I was there, or maybe just made me wish even more that i was...
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As usual, this report is very much appreciated here on the East coast unable to be there in person. Can't wait to hear the tune Warm.
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