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Not that I've seen. But I've always thought a "soundtrack" of the music from the film would be great. That version of "I'm Always in Love" is still the best one.

yeah no kidding, kind of like "No Direction Home". There is some killer stuff on the documentary that is all recorded well. The acoustic version of Poor Places the rocking version of Kamera (which may be on one of the demo/outtakes compilations), Be Not So Fearful, etc on an on.

The more I give to this record, the more my initial opinions don't hold up. This is a beautiful record, and songs like Black Moon and Rising Red Lung are starting to show themselves. I apologize I was quick to not feel it. Not that i'm apologizing, just took a while, I'm not use to Wilco taking a while

Anyone know if the acoustic version of IATTBYH at the beginning of doc is available? I have accessed most of the YHF demo/outtakes stuff and none of them have that acoustic version.

as an aside, man I love alot of those songs from that era, even the ones that seem like rough demos are so melodic and wonderful, for example Alone is amazing!

1. Decemberists - Kind Is Dead (timeless songbook stuff here) 10 solids memorable,hummable beautifully written and constructed songs

2. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues (beautiful in every way. indie folk with a vision like brian wilson, I mean really listen to the beauty of Montezuma, i mean really).

3. J. Mascis - Several Shades of Why (a great songwriter album from a musical hero) an album i return to more than almost any this year

4. & 5. tie between the new Gillian Welch and Ryan Adams- you can't go wrong with these two (enough said)

I'm sad that a Wilco record wasn't in my top 5, but for as much as I appreciate The Whole Love, it just didn't connect with me like Wilco usually does. that is just me

A couple thoughts: seen wilco on every tour except the last one (wilco the album tour). They will likely never match the emotional intensity of the Being There and Summer Teeth tours, but on a positive: I was flat out entertained. The setlist was really nice and diverse and the sound was great, the lighting and all that jazz was great. Bottom line, these guys have become true entertaining professionals and for that they deserve credit for putting on a great show. The down side for me is, I feel in all of those chops and professionalism something has been lost. (or maybe it is me). Especially Jeff seems kind of passive or going throught the motions a tad, especially on Someday Soon New Madrid, Box ( kind of like, this will make some folks happy but I'm not feeling it really) I don't know, maybe it is just because I'm no longer up front and getting sweated upon, but I feel it has all become a tad too professional. At worse an indie rock DMB situation. Hell Neil Young understood the benefit of rolling out the old crazy horse to bring him back down to the planet. This is weird for me, because I had a great time, but feel like I'm complaining. Probably just nostalgic about the BT tours and having Jeff threatening to throw guitars at me (i know this was at every show during Kingpin, but he appeared to really want to throw the guitar). It was a good time and the opener of Less Than you think/art of almost was freaking awesome, like pink floyd playing metal music

Love is he'll is his tonights the night too easy

"Musicians (and any artist really) can get behind any entity and voice their opinion about it. They don't lose that right because they perform for a living."

hey, I've been to some amazing ryan adams shows and I've been to a few miserable (he's drunk or high and babbling shows). Sure it is disrespectful and now I think twice when putting money down to see him. I never think twice (with exceptiion of ORION) when i put money down for his records. I guess it doesn't change what I hear on the record. I either love his music or I don't ( i generally do).

For me personally, I find hearing a musician predictably spout their opinion (usually speaking to the choir), predictable, pointless, self righteous and every bit as self involved as any disrespectful act we are accusing mr. adams of. that is just me. They shouldnt lose their right, I just wish it wasn't reinforced with applause and "yeah dude you are so smart" crap

anyway, we still aren't discussing the album. so it goes

Never fails, you can't get very far talking about ryan adam's music w/o his behaviors popping up. I said I was homer for his music, but I'm not wanting to spend my days with the dude. (I lack that energy). If he burns his bridges that is on him, I'm not going to stop listening because he may be prone to immaturity. In my mind Tweedy (i'm a bigger wilco fan than ryan adams), campaigning for our president is far more off putting that a rock star temper tantrum. And I'm sure if any musician killed or raped or whatever somebody I'd probably stop and rethink this, but at this point, I'm just going to love his work. Oh, and "who does he think he is?" I think he should think he is this generations Neil Young. Ok, everyone laugh. I believe that. I think their careers (with ryan not being as popular one major exception) are very similar. I think ryan just put out his Comes A Time.

I'd keep tryin, my first listen or so was underwhelming, but the melodies and stuff are starting to come out. I had the same issue when easy tiger first came out, now I love that thing. Now I'm a complete homer for ryan, but I will always defend Cardinology, 29, III/iv. with the exception of III/iV which could have made one killer single album (the one time i would call for an editor for ryan). I don't know, I just feel he has never stopped. everyone talks about how it isn't as good etc etc. who knows. like i said it probably isnt' objective for me.

After about 4 or 5 spins of the new one, i'm impressed. i think he just created a soft rock masterstroke. I mean that respectfully and without irony. It was a little wierd to hear ryan put out such a samey/coherent record, however it works for me. I think the one criticism I would have, is that few of the songs hit his usual highwater mark. It is very consistent, but other than "I Love You But I Don't Know What To Say" or "Lucky Now", I don't think he is in his crazy awesome territory. As for "I Love You But..." I figure people on this board will slay that song or this album for being dad rock or easy listening, but that song is a true classic. maybe a tad much for the masses, but the song and the perfromance are immaculate.

for me, the vinyl sequencing leaves me really feeling that this record falls flat on the second half. I'm just as of yet not feeling half of this record. Overall I just don't love the whole love. I enjoy Art of Almost, I Might, Dawned On Me, Born Alone, Open Mind, The Whole Love. The rest is not connecting, which for me is a sad day in Wilco love land.

Maybe it will grow but it just seems like a sel conscious reaction the stupid dad rock criticism

Yeah lacking soul is a good way to put it. After initial listens I'm a tad bored. Man I loved this band and will always support them. But it has been less of a passion in recent years. The best thing I can say is that the more it becomes about musicianship the less I feel it. Damn it from day one was about the sincerity and intensity of Jeff! He seems half interested on the new one. The slower songs lack melody, the rocking songs seem disconnected or contrived. One listen I know, but I'd take sky and the album anyday over this

dear lord that sure is pretty! looking crazy forward to this

here we go! it is time for the ultimate fan boy to start getting giddy again!

speaking of elizabethtown "wild wind blows" is one of the most amazing songs of his to not see an official light of day.

what are some of the other blogs you check?

I've enjoyed the record. very pleasant and mostly strong songs. nothing amazing but solid

as for pitchfork, i ask myself why? I go there almost 3 to 4 times a week for music news and i've noticed in the last month i have about a 10% success rate of ever hearing of the bands on the record reviews. I consider myself pretty in tune and at least could have heard of the bands, this is getting crazy and just stupid.

How can something so simple get so f**&&*(( up.

Sell the same exact thing on vinyl, cd, mp3

release a freaking ep with extras a few months later

forget all of this marketing crap (which i fall for) and lets go back to the old days where nobody cared about Wilco except for rock critics.

I'm serious, the one thing that consistently gets in the way of my overwhelming love for my favorite band (wilco) is this Wilco (The Brand). It starts feeling like Dave Matthews at times. A record just becomes a reason to promote the endless tour and tshirt campaign.

At the end of the day, most Wilco fans are about the tunes. Don't make it a freakin scavenger hunt to find the tunes. If I buy this on vinyl (which the band likely prefers at the best listening experience) then why should I have to go purchase the record again to get extra tracks and pictures and etc. ?

Boy we can all screw stuff up can't we!

Just a tad annoyed

This dude is just super talented. He is taking music that for me holds no interest and making it listenalbe, loveable and emotional

vocals are a bit choppy to me, but damn those first two albums were produced so well. i love ethan john's production. i can think of several bands that would do well if they hired him. he's what rick ruben is trying to be.

 

i saw band of horses with jayhawks in may. there were very tight. i find their music a bit samey.

see I can't tell about mr. Ethan Johns. I own a lot of stuff he has produced, some really great records. But he doesn't work for everyone (Ben Kweller for example and Ray Laymontagne is like paint drying for me). I always look forward to him and Ryan Adams though and I believe one of those is about to be released this year.

Now that we have heard from Dale Murphy, I anxiously await Andy Van Slyke's take.

No I don't think we have the final word on this until we hear from Pete Incaviglia

or Ivan Calderon for that matter

I think I just disrespected Mr. Murphy in the worst way?

Don't get me wrong, Come Around Sundown was their weakest (I believe due to the weakest batch of songs), but Only By Night was fantastic, (ok they have never recaptured the raw energy of the first two records, but I don't view this as some sort of stylistic shift as much of maybe just losing an edge or maturing or whatever.) I'm not a super fan, but I think they generally make really good rock music in a way we don't get much from rock bands these days. Beside the Black Crowes or Black Keys how many straight up rocks bands do we have in recent decades that we can stand behind? My ignorance will be pointed out I'm sure, but to my ears I enjoy rocking out with KOL in a very thoughtless type of way!

Band of horses are worth it anytime/anyplace/anyprice under $30. Great great band all the way around. Never seen KOL live, but I will still contend that outside of popularity and tad cleaner vocal they are the same group from album #1. I believe the hipsters in us start biting the hand that fed us when "our" bands make it big. You know who is next (the black keys). Mark my words, they will be labeled as money grabbing sell outs anytime now. Just a thought.

yeah, I'm just looking for songs released for purpose of radio play/singles. so that would exclude all over the place, summer teeth sum aren't, one true vine ep that came with SBS. etc.

As a side note, some of these appear to be UK only FWIW