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So i (for whatever reason unknown) have been working to compile a complete listing of Wilco singles and releases to radio (promo only dj releases) here is what I have. Anything missing?

AM: Box Full of Letters (single & promo), Casino Queen (promo), I Must Be High (promo)

Being There: Outtasite (single & promo), Monday (promo), Hotel Arizona (promo)

Mermaid Ave: California Stars (promo)

ST: Can't Stand It (single & promo), A Shot In The Arm (single & promo), Nothingsevergonna...(promo)

Mermaid 2: Secrets Of The Sea (promo)

YHF: Heavy Metal Drummer (promo), War On War (single & promo), Kamera (promo), Jesus Etc (promo)

AGIB: I'm A Wheel (single & promo), Theologians (promo)

SBS: What Light (single & promo), Walken (promo)

NON Album I Tunes Single: The Thanks I Get

(The Album): You Never Know (single & promo), You And I (promo)

THE WHOLE LOVE: I Might (single)

That is 23 total. Now I swear The Late Greats from AGIB was the first single released to radio (at least in Columbia mo)but I can't find any proof of that. I also know that I have heard (in Columbia AAA market) I'm Always In Love (however no proof of promo copies)

Any thoughts? (other than I'm sick)

i made a declaration to myself with this board to only post positive comments. I get tired of the negativity on the interwebs. I'm breaking that. I've already stated on this thread that I am a lukewarm MMJ fan, who happens to revisit evil urges more than any other album of theirs. that being that, I just gave one listen (so this could change) to the new one, and i am struggling to understand what happened. One song (Beautiful, the way i feel) kept my attention. the lyrics are bad by already shaky mmj standards. man o man this is a mind blower of how off this record is. ??? jim's voice doesn't even sound right. who knows?

From what I have purchased

1. Decemberists - The King Is Dead (easy #1/this is timeless/didn't even really like this band/crazy good)

2. Gillian Welch - The Harrow And The Harvest (great songs speak for themselves)

3. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues (just beautiful)

4. J Masics - Several Shades Of Why (some cool tunes here/i have a soft spot for j)

5. Iron/Wine & The Head And The Heart - (hit and miss for both records, but I have enjoyed them)

I'm awaiting to purchase:

MMJ

Vetiver - The Errant Charm

Amber Jean is my favorite Neil song that i've heard in years. Just Saying.

a 76 crazy horse show has been discussed. probably a trans band tour or a solo trans tour set. i wish dreamin' man had more than just harvest moon live. i assume there will be more volumes after 12: 99 solo, 2001 crazy horse?

 

to tell you the truth, i'm kind of worn out with neil. he's been pumping out a lot of mediocre stuff since Silver and Gold. 2-3 releases a year! he's one of my favorites, but i think i need a break. i really wish these archive releases had everything...like this last one should have an example of all the tunes played on this tour and just be a document of that not just all of neil's corny honky tonk tunes.

My biggest concern with Neil is what I believe to be him diluting his reputation or not worrying about his legacy. Now all of that may mean jack shit to Neil (and I guess that is cool). But as a completist, it is hard to look at the albums from 1968-80 and then start seeing Life and Fork In The Road and Living With War. Road Rock Vol. 1 (which is now completely weird due to the PS series. there won't be vol. 2) if you know what I'm saying. Everything from 1980 on seems scattershot. I mean his legacy was freaking impeccable and now he puts out stuff like Fork In The Road with no hesitation. I guess this is my hang up, but some of this would be embarrassing to me.

Hawks and Doves is a strange record. I've never given side two a chance so might go back and re-visit that. I do like some of those 80s records though. Trans is great, as is This Note's for You. There are even a couple of really great songs on Landing on Water (I love Touch the Night, even if it is a bit of a re-tread of Hurricane) but the production ruins them.

How is it possible that almost everyone (even the most reputable) got sucked into that crap 80's sound. I've heard theories about the impact of cocaine and all of that, but how can Neil Young go from making records that sound like Comes A Time for example, to some of that 80's sounding crap. Neil should do a series in his archives called the reproduced series to uncover some gems that are so easy to overlook. Who knows?

I'm really enjoying this, not feeling the corny vibe, just good old country vibe. It has actually pushed me to go back and revisit old ways and the second half of hawks and doves. The playing on this album is so freaking tight, man that fiddle. I struggle at times with Neil from 1980 onward due to the decision making, it is hard to appreciate the second half of Hawks and Doves for what it is mixed with the first half of old singer songwriter tunes. Or the production of some the 80's albums got sucked into the crappy 80's production black hole. But this live record for me is great. Anytime I can listen to pretty straight forward country music from someone who I don't immediately want to knock upside the head is a plus. I love country music, I just hate what it tends to become and by whom it is presented. For me this is real fun.

Neil should release Time Fades Away (with no changes) as part of the performance series like ps 05 or something. That would be smart, according to me

That setlist is pretty sweet! Almost like he has come to terms with his career and highlighting some key moments along the way (if that makes sense).

new album presale up on Gillian's website. No vinyl as of now? There is a message related to the vinyl issue, which promises ALL of her releases will at some point soon be available on that format.

Not sure what the hang up is on the vinyl, but i will practice my patience.

I swear I'm the most conflicted MMJ fan (maybe that means I'm not a real fan). I just can'y put my finger on how I feel about them. Great live show, and It Still Moves is a statement. However a lot of their recorded output sounds like amateur hour in terms of sound/production. Almost like they believe their press, like they are no where as good as their reputation. However I thought Evil Urges was real solid and the die hards hated it. And they are a tad too silly at times for my taste. Who knows? I just think I would struggle to defend them to a neasayer.

The three song run of Blue Beard, On My Way Back Home and Infinite Arms from the Band of Horses album Infinite Arms (most of the album, really). It's been a year now and I can't get over that album. There's this emotion pull that I can't explain. Simultaneously heartbreaking and comforting.

 

Reservations from those Wilco guys is another big one for me. I had a lot of trouble listening to that song for a while because I was nervous about how it made me feel.

yeah there is something about infinite arms (the album) that speaks to the early thirtysomething in me. Great record

I'm curious, and I'm sure there will be a ton of press coverage explaining, of why it has taken so long. Close to a decade since her last record. Anyone have any clues on this?

All indications are (via internet ramblings and advance copy,leaks etc) that the new record is actually coming out. (june 28th). I was late to get into her and David, but I think Soul Journey is about as awesome as anything of this style and I loved the Dave Rawlings Machine record.

Now here is hoping that the new one, in addition to her back catalogue finally gets its vinyl day.

Don't get me wrong, I wore out my cassette copy of the Wall and I love Animals and really think The Final Cut is underappreciated, I'm speaking more to the image of it all. I know this should be irrelevant, but when I listen to the Wall, I get this feeling that some basement dwelling, Ozzy Ozborne loving, world wrestling watching dude is digging on the same thing. I'm not into to darker stuff generally and this whole Wall scene kind of leaves me in an uncomfortable camp. I just prefer the less affected period. Now that I have offended a certain subset of our population. Does this make sense?

Having the entire catalogue on vinyl (minus momentary lapse and divison bell) I think I have no interest in this. The Floyd were my first musical love and I just went back a month ago a spinned some early stuff. I sometimes resent (maybe that is too strong) how they are marketed or percieved or whatever. I hate to think of the floyd as the marching hammers, or The Wall artwork, or the later years light show band. I prefer to think of the floyd as the early seventies Ummagumma or Meddle era floyd. Just go look at those pictures of these English hippie looking dudes. Now that is far out. Man I love some 1969-1975 floyd

how have i never heard of this guy??

 

quick, tell me which album to start with...

Since, then Devotion & Doubt, then probably Bloomed or Dents and Shells

Since is a masterpiece, don't argue it. Meadows left me completely ambivalent. This is a dude that I hope one day people will look at his body of work and crap their pants. Devtion and Doubt, Since, The Hill! what a run!

I've seen them once (sasquatch fest) and it dispelled my initial apprehension for their overhyped status at the time.

However generally I try not to compare a band's live show with their records. To be frank I would never spin a Lucinda Williams record if i was basing things off her live show, or Iron & Wine after my last concert with him. On the otherhand I've thought about buying a bunch of Robbie Fulks records after seeing him live only to realize I can't sit down and listen to him without it being in person. I feel it is apples and oranges. On some level I don't care whether they can replicate this beautiful thing in person. 361 days out of the year I'll have the vinyl only one day can I see them live anyway

For something to be beautiful, it needs to move me or affect me in some way. Despite the lushness and harmonies of this album, I'm left cold with no connection to it. I also don't think the melodies are very strong at all. And the harmonies feel tacked on as a way to move each song along, rather than something organic and natural.

No I get what you are saying, I just get hung up on the terrible part. I think relatively speaking there is so much terrible music and even with not connecting to this, I think it is in the top 5 % of music currently being made. I had the same reaction to when people said Wilco The Album was terrible. I just think it is a gross overstatement. Just my opinion, and who am I just terrible or not, but I just don't want to outright dissmiss something someone poured time and heart into. I can respect Grizzly Bear, just don't dig it

Well, I guess I'm closer to the NME review. This is terrible. Very disappointing.

Oh now!. I get not digging it, like I didn't dig Grizzly Bear's Veckatimist, but I'd never argue it is terrible. These records are finely crafted and thoughfully crafted at least musically. It is odd, for an album that is suppose to be more personal, I'm having trouble connecting with it as much lyrically as I did their first two releases. That being said, I'll stand by the belief that it is one of the most beautiful sounding records I've heard in a long time.

That is a funny review and I'm cool with not everyone having the same opinion. I do however, and always have, felt it is lazy to label soothing/pretty music as unemotional. There are many ways to express intense emotions beyond loud/fast and screaming. Heck, critics didn't love CSN (i think), so why should it be different

that was one concern i had with the new record. the first Fleet Foxes releases had lyrics that i felt really fit the vibe of those records. They kind of took you away to some other time. I was concerned with how the more personal and direct lyrics would fit with their music. It hasn't bothered me at this point and my concerns appear invalid

I recieved my vinyl on Saturday, I've listened to the first half twice and still letting it soak in. Too early to say what I think, but it is definetly one of the most beautiful things I've heard in a long time.

I still think those albums are terrible.

 

Cardinology does appear to be a dividing line amongst fans. For me, I've always found it inspirational (not to be dramatic) My wife and I sometimes argue over that record, my defense is that he does the sad bastard records amazingly well and I think Cardinology is him doing sober rock amazingly well.

As far as III/IV, i just say if you haven't heard it, give it a spin, and don't immediately dismiss it. His "rock" records are not as revisited frequently for me as his other stuff, but it isn't without merit. I really feel there are some gems in there, especially almost all of III.

A couple thoughts and one request:

I have been a pretty strong supporter of Cardinology and III/IV (actually pretty surprised how few feel III/IV isn't stronger than they express). However first time through Class Mythology I was dissmissive. I gave it some real spins last night and overall I think it is a rather strong ep for what an ep is. I wouldn't argue that these should have been on Cardinology, but as B sides or throwaways they are nice.

speaking of bsides and rarities. I have mentioned here before that I have collected via original copy or mp3 every Ryan Adams official non album song, I didnt' look at the total number last night but I believe I'm in the 70's. The only one that has been MIA is the 7" that came with his first book Hello Sunshine.

The tracks are "Thank You" backed with "Evergreen" (demo). If anyone has a vinyl mp3 rip I would love a shout out.

I usually find whatever I need in terms of b sides or rarities or special releases via google or the ol record store but not this one.