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4 hours ago, calvino said:

Yeah I guess. But man, I would have read that as two completely different sets -- otherwise why even put it on the webpage. 

Wilcoworld advertised "no repeats".  You will always get two different sets with a two night stand. There was no confusing literature when I bought those tickets.

On 8/29/2023 at 10:18 AM, bböp said:

With this pair of shows in Utrecht being the lone two-night stand of this European tour, there was at least some conjecture among some of the people attending both gigs about exactly what to expect. I seemed to remember there being something about no repeated songs at some point in the fine print of a tour dates advert/listing — perhaps when ticket sales for the Sunday/Monday shows had been a bit sluggish? — and some of my colleagues recalled reading a similar promise on the TivoliVredenburg Web site.

 

So after we successfully negotiated a rather disorganized queue, followed a few locals through a “secret” door into the Ronda venue and secured our spots at the front, all there was to do (after watching another delightful support set by Courtney Marie Andrews) was wait for the lights to go down on Night 2 and see what Jeff and his Wilco bandmates had up their collective sleeves. When the band began to play the opening chords to Hell Is Chrome — which, coincidentally, was one of the songs my front-row mate most wanted to hear and which I pooh-poohed as being unlikely — things looked extremely promising for a set with some real rarities. It was the first time Wilco had played the song in more than four years, since a handful of performances in 2019; before that, it hadn't been since one of the Winter Residency shows in 2014.

 

We knew by the third song of the set, when Jeff began strumming the plaintive intro to I Am My Mother and followed it up as usual with Cruel Country, that this wouldn't be a completely fresh batch of songs relative to Night 1. But since we were never really sure what had been promised (or promised and reneged, or just a figment of our imaginations), it wasn't really all that disappointing to hear some tunes that have become recent setlist staples — and there were still a few surprises yet to come.

 

"How many of you were here last night?"  Jeff asked the audience in his first real comments of the evening, to a smattering of applause. "OK, not too many. We tried to change it up a little bit." When one fan subsequently yelled out, "We love you, Wilco!" Jeff replied, "Doja Cat says she doesn't love people who say they love her...just one of the many ways we're not alike."

 

One repeat that I didn't mind hearing came in the encore when, for the second straight night, Andrews joined Wilco on vocals. She has sung the song with the band at least a handful of times now, but tonight she seemed to finally hit her comfort zone with it. She took the second verse on her own, and it was nice to see her smile as she finally nailed the tricky cadences of the lyrics as well as watched her bandmates Sean Mullins and Taylor Zachry join on shakers behind Glenn for presumably the first time. Then Jeff invited Andrews to stay for one more song, and the two of them sang a nice duet on You And I.

 

A couple of people pointed out to me afterward that Jeff, who had been relatively chatty on Night 1, seemed like he might have been a bit talked out on Night 2. True, he didn't gab with the audience nearly as frequently as he did the previous night. But that might have also been a product of a somewhat more sedate Monday night crowd as well. There just weren't as many people yelling random things for Jeff to react to.

 

One funny moment came after Jeff, as he had the night before, back introduced Evicted by saying it was a song off an album that's coming out next month. A guy loudly stated that the album was called Cousin, I guess indicating he knew that fact. "That's right, Cousin," Jeff said. "Are you my fact-checking cuz?" It was almost the exactly the same back-and-forth that Jeff had with a guy the night before, standing in nearly the same spot, causing Jeff to ask if it was indeed the same guy. The Night 2 guy then shared that he hadn't been at the previous night's show, but had in fact been watching The Bear. The "conversation" continued somewhat awkwardly until Jeff finally put it to bed by joking, "Well, I'm glad we had time to have this talk. It's been very cheerful." You probably had to be there.

 

Other than that, the visits to Banter Corner were pretty minimal. Midway through the set, Jeff did briefly mention the Utrechtian local chant again — see previous show recap — and thanked the audience for inviting the band to come back again. "We love it here, even if we do have some post-traumatic stress from a night seven years ago," Jeff said. "But it's getting better." And there was a Jeff-Nels interaction I didn't completely get when Jeff pointed in Nels' direction after Impossible Germany (as he usually does) to honor Nels' solo and Nels came over and gave Jeff a sweet little hug. Then Jeff said something to Nels about not knowing "that was your middle name," and Nels responding it was on his passport. I feel like I missed part of that conversation.

 

Anyway, despite about half the set being the same as Night 1 and shattering our (probably delusional) expectations about there being no repeats, this was still a fun night that saw some fantastic renditions of songs we don't always get to hear anymore like I'll Fight and Side With The Seeds. And you know, when you get a Monday on Monday to close things out, especially with an Outtasite (Outta Mind) tacked on as it should be, you can't ever walk out on a down note. So viva Utrecht, or rather "Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..."

 

Here was the complete setlist, as played, for Night 2 (didn't get a look at a printed list, so can't say if there were any changes/omissions):

 

Hell Is Chrome

Story To Tell

I Am My Mother

Cruel Country

I Am Trying To Break Your Heart

Kamera

I'll Fight

Side With The Seeds

Hummingbird

Bird Without A Tail/Base Of My Skull

Random Name Generator

Misunderstood

Love Is Everywhere (Beware)

Impossible Germany

Jesus, etc.

Evicted

The Late Greats

Dawned On Me

A Shot In The Arm

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Falling Apart (Right Now)

California Stars (w/Courtney Marie Andrews on vocals and Sean Mullins and Taylor Zachry on percussion)

You And I (w/Courtney Marie Andrews on vocals)

Monday>

Outtasite (Outta Mind)

What was so delusional about those of us who bought tickets, took time off work, purchased flights, hotel rooms, and ubers to expect the band to deliver on thier promise? What trouble would it have been for them to play two completely different sets? Bait and switch. 

On 8/15/2023 at 12:08 AM, Brian F. said:

The comparison to Star Wars and the description of "A Bowl and a Pudding" have me thinking that song might be this album's "You Satellite." I don't really want another "You Satellite," but I'll keep an open mind. (Or an "Open Mind," anyway.)

You Satellite was jaw dropping the one time I saw it performed. 

This record is incredible.  Will be seeing them in Spain in a couple weeks. Didn't know when I bought the tickets there would be a new record coming out

yep, I knew all the contrarians would come out on this one. I could list a half dozen tom petty songs for example that everyone but the most insufferable nerd would agree are "hits" the point being everyone recognizes the damn song. it just becomes part of the pop culture.

Will there every be a "hit"? I get that none of use could give two shits and would rather there not be,  though Jeff is a  "once a generation songwriter".  Or is guitar music just permanently over as far as the mainstream?

Shmilco 2

i was expecting more variety in the sets

I just checked my online Chase Visa account and noticed our tickets for the 11.12.19 Indianapolis show are billed as

 

Jul 2, 2019

TM *THE MOODY BLUES

 

Entertainment $130.50 See details about this transaction

 

Anyone else have Ticketmaster bill like this?  I have the correct hard tickets 

what happens when you click on "See details about this transaction" ? I would have called ticket slave immediately and told them you dont go to those types of concerts, "where long haired Canadians turn on the smoke machine and play their hits"

8/10/08 and 9/21/2012

This made me think of of the Wilmington, DE show in August of '08. If you wanted tickets you stood in line at the venue the day they went on sale with no other outlets. I dropped off my unemployed friend that morning and went to work, picking him up later in the afternoon. I remember seeing him walking towards me with a white envelope and being relieved that he actually got tickets at this 800 seat venue. As it turns out, he got the last 3 possible seats, which were actually just 3 folding chairs the venue setup for us in the balcony.  They were 35.00 each. 

JoJo Siwa tickets were at a similar price point under the "Official Platinum" system

Ha, you're so right!  I've been out of town and grabbed our tix from the road so when I saw the price I just swallowed hard and went for it.  Called my wife and were lamenting that we went for the local show instead of opting for a road trip to Cain's.  If you've not been to Cain's you are in for a treat!  We attended the show a few years back that ended up on the Ashes DVD and it was among my very favorite and most memorable shows.

"a few years back" That was March of '08. Its cool man i'm getting old too. 

This is all SarahC's fault. Thanks Sarah!    

I'm not even going to SS btw

Want to help welcome back our favorite band from the long hiatus?

Planning on being in Joe’s Field on Friday night at SSF?

I think a big, warm, MassMoca welcome is in order, and I’m thinking a little signage would do the trick. Nothing fancy, just a little something to make sure they know we missed them.  I’ll make and bring the signs and get them out on Friday at the festival.  Your job would be to hold one up at the start of the show.  Easy peasy.  No flash mobbing, no dancing, no skill required, and no Bull Black Nova’s… If you’re interested in participating, PM me or just reply below and I’ll take it from there.  See y’all soon.

Vince

The idea of "selling out" is a ridiculous and meaningless notion in the music business of the present day.

 

I see this more as a "buying in" of the new model of the concert business.  We're at a point where festivals, rather than individual concerts, are how a large percentage of people experience live music.  Rather than Wilco getting booked onto someone else's festival, they are taking control and putting on their own festivals that they can run however they like.  In no possible sense could that ever be considered a sellout, and is actually the exact opposite of selling out.  

 

My wife and I discussed going, but the deal breaker for us is the bottomless liquor dispenser in every hotel room (on top of the all-you-can-drink policy in general throughout the resort).  My wife quit drinking six months ago, and at that same time I cut back almost entirely.  A festival like this is not for us, but I'm sure it'll be a great time for those who attend 

"Wilco is a band, not a brand" 

Hello fellow Wilco and Solid Sounds fans. I seek one Saturday ticket. I'll respond promptly. Thanks for considering me. Jonathan

early bird gets the worm 

We slip and slide on the stay together landmine

I downloaded it.

However, I am not going to listen until Tuesday, because that's when the listening party is.

I justified downloading it because the nearest store hosting a party is 2 hours away. I can't drive that far for the party, but I still want to hear it at the same time as folks at the party. Plus, I've purchased 3 copies of the record already, so....

Are you an insufferable nerd?

Yea but its "cd quality" Oh wait.

Sounds like you're confusing Richard Bowden and Richard Thompson. Bowden plays fiddle in Ryan Bingham's band and sat in with Wilco on a few occasions on the AmericanaramA tour and afterward, while Thompson of course is the legendary guitar player who also played some shows on the AmericanaramA run.

 

Regardless, I'd be pretty surprised if any new record is out before late summer at the earliest.

Touche. I've actually been hearing Richard Thompson pretty regular on siriusxm, I found him to be meh

Could be out by May since the are going to be playing with Richard Thompson and I do recall his fiddle during the americanarama tour. Especially since it's going to be some country type arrangements. Didn't nels get a mandolin?

Well they had a good run

Jeff's voice had a very noticible change starting with AGIB. I think he had some sort of sinus type operation. I don't know whether it was supposed to make his voice better or not but I think he became a more confident and diciplined singer.

Geez with all thats going on Spencer is really just a bona fide rock star at this point. Makes me wonder what younger brother Sam is up to these days. Maybe he turned out to be some homey kid or whatever.