sonnyfeeling

Susie posted a note on Facebook (and it was confirmed by a band member last night) that they ended the set early because Jeff was not feeling well and needed medical treatment for heat exhaustion, aggravated by his hip issues.

He's apparently doing better now. I'm interested to hear what he says when they take the stage tonight. Maybe something along the lines of "Where were we?" 

I think you might have missed this part from earlier:

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I heard back from the Kung Fu Store. They said the release was "posted prematurely by mistake." They say it will be updated later ("date is TBD") and they will contact me when the revised version is available.

 

It has not been re-released.

On 9/8/2022 at 9:11 AM, Mowjo8185 said:

Also: Sonnyfeeling, I could probably edit that audio file down for you if it's been annoying for you.

(Sorry for the late reply. Just noticed this!)

Thanks! I've got my copy of Audacity just sitting here and will probably do this now that it's apparent they're in no rush to fix this release.

I still have not heard back from them. They said they would be in touch when they re-released the show, but apparently it's not a priority. Guess I should feel fortunate to have the show even if one track is slightly messed up.

As I understand it, the event is every other year, just like Solid Sound. So far it's been 2020 and 2022, so the next one should be January 2024... And if past experience is any indication, it will be announced in May 2023.

I heard back from the Kung Fu Store. They said the release was "posted prematurely by mistake." They say it will be updated later ("date is TBD") and they will contact me when the revised version is available.

Guess we have collector's items here.  

Thanks for confirming! I sent an email to the Kung Fu Store people describing the problem. We'll see if they can get a fix out.

If you've purchased and downloaded the new Roadcase releases from the 2022 Sky Blue Sky festival, can you check a track and see if your copy has this flaw?

Roadcase 095, 2022-01-20, track 8, Far Far Away

The song ends normally at about the 3:19 mark, and then at 3:30 or so the last minute or so of the track abruptly cuts back in and repeats.

If someone else can reproduce this flaw, I'll try to figure out how to report it to Wilco HQ and see if they can release a fixed version.

We were standing a few feet to the right of Señor bbop and I can attest to the enthusiasm of the audience, which included one family near us from Valencia that were absolute diehard Wilco fans and knew every song.  Nels played like he was making up for several lost days in one, and the entire band seemed ... joyful.

My unpopular opinion:

I also found the Sunday set uninspiring.

If Solid Sound is going to sell this many tickets and be out in the middle of the country where people have to drive fairly long distances to find accommodations, there should be three Wilco sets.

Let Tweedy (the band) have a set in the daytime just like the other band members' side projects.

I have one left. Send me a PM.

Please don't let these tickets go to waste. If you can use them, tell me your story.

Alas, can't make it after all.

Our loss is your gain. Tickets have been delivered to me (as digital passes). Face value is $398. Open to any reasonable offer. Send a PM and I can get them to you immediately.

If you can use them, make your case and I will transfer them to you.

23 minutes ago, tinnitus photography said:

no one on this board has any clue as to how the contracts are structured, so conjecture about what could/should be done is just that - conjecture.

I have some idea how the buyout contracts with the resorts work, because I have a family member who has worked on those contracts at this very resort. And of course Mr. Tweedy has spoken about the fact that Wilco is contracted with the promoter to perform at the show.

But you don't need to read the contract in detail to understand that all this is going to result in financial hardship for many of the people involved. 

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It’s what professionals in these fields do every day.

I am in fact married to a person who made her living for many years as a PR person, and I make my living today by writing. 

The trouble here isn't that no one has come up with the right words. It's that the party in charge (the promoter) isn't willing to make a decision that will probably bankrupt them. In the case of Dead & Co., the promoters didn't make that decision until they literally had no other choice because multiple band members and staff had come down with COVID and the show could not go on.

This isn't about words, it's about actions, and like I said, all of the logical outcomes here end up with someone (or many someones, i.e. fans) losing a lot of money. And regardless of how it shakes out, it's hard to imagine that fans are going to have confidence in this type of event going forward.

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Well yes, of course they’d use the bully pulpit wisely. 

How would that work, exactly? Not challenging, I am just genuinely curious what options you think are available in a situation that seems to have very few good outcomes. I imagine there are some fairly testy conversations going on behind the scenes between promoter and band, but those are obviously not public.

My understanding is that the way these festivals work is the promoter does a buyout of the resort, agreeing to pay the resort owner a fairly large sum of money in exchange for the right to put on the show and sell packages directly to fans.

The band has a contract with the promoter to allow the use of their name and to play a certain number of shows.

I don't know what either contract says, but I presume that the promoter is on the hook for the buyout fee unless the resort somehow is unable to deliver the rooms. And the band probably has some major penalties to pay if they cancel. They probably also have non-disparagement clauses that could cost them dearly if they used that bully pulpit unwisely.

The trouble with the current situation is that someone (or many someones) will probably wind up losing a pile of money. During normal times, these things were hugely profitable, but obviously the rules have changed in the COVID era.

What a mess.  

I wish 

2 hours ago, jw harding said:

There really is very little concern about catching COVID there. Outside most of the time. .  

I wish I could share that optimism. Unfortunately, it's not just about being at an outdoor concert. There's the trip to the airport, and time spent in the airport waiting for your flight, and the flight itself, and time spent at the destination airport waiting for your bags, and the (long) bus ride to the resort, and then a repeat of all those things in reverse on the trip home. That's a lot of exposure to a lot of people.

I personally know four people who had the same optimism, traveled over the holidays, and wound up catching COVID. Two got pretty sick (but not enough to be hospitalized) and had to miss a flight home. One is stuck in Colorado right now waiting for the infection to work itself out and to get a negative test so he can go home. Another was super careful but spent 30 minutes at an indoor restaurant at a ski resort and that's all it took.

We had opted not to go to SBS this year and made plans to go to Hawaii instead to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary. We were supposed to leave a few days ago, but we canceled a few days beforehand, forfeiting a prepaid condo rental. (Cost was pretty similar to a deluxe SBS package.) You absolutely could not pay me to travel this week or next, knowing the current case rates.

Given how fast this thing is spreading, I suspect the surge will be over in a month or so after everyone who's going to get infected gets infected. But I don't want to be on that list, thanks much.  

>> sound on the rail was absolutely garbage though.

Yes, we were on the rail as well (in the section on the right). The bass was so oppressive and overpowering that it literally hurt. It was like being inside a subwoofer that was turned up too loud. The bass drum completely overwhelmed every other low frequency and felt like it was shaking my internal organs. I think they had a blown speaker (or maybe had the crossover frequency set horribly wrong), because the sound at the other stage was not at all like that.

Thanks, Paul. Judy and I made it to Chattanooga for this festival and I have been meaning to post something about it here.

This is a lovely festival in a perfect location, in a large park on the Tennessee River. The festival organizers are Drew and Ellie Holcomb, who are fixtures in the Nashville music scene. Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors played the set just before Wilco, on the main stage, with Dr. Dog closing out the day's activities on the smaller stage across the park. During his (well received) set, Drew exhorted the audience to stick around for Wilco, who he called "the best band in the country right now, and I will fight you over that!" It was a sentiment he repeated toward the end of his set.

Wilco did a good job of living up to Mr. Holcomb's billing with a thoroughly professional (and I mean that in the best possible way) set. It was a perfect, clear evening under the stars, and the band managed to pack a surprising amount of music into their 90 minutes, including a three-song encore that ended with most of Dr. Dog wandering onto the stage to play various percussion instruments for the closing California Stars. When Jeff waved goodnight to the audience, he said, "I have no idea who those guys were." (He was, of course, just kidding, as Wilco and Dr. Dog know each other quite well.)

Squeezing that much music into their allotted time slot meant that Jeff wasn't particularly chatty. Only a few Banter Corner moments stood out for me. At one point, Jeff looked up at a crowd that was lining a pedestrian bridge over the park and commented that they hadn't paid and would have to move along. ("Just kidding. We welcome everyone.")

He also offered a brief note about this being the resumption of the tour that was interrupted by the pandemic. "We released an album called 'Ode to Joy,'" he said, noting that in retrospect it wasn't the most prescient title.

The well behaved audience clearly loved the set, and it was a delightful ending to a fun two days on the river. We look forward to going back next year.

Haven't seen a mention of this here yet.

Three day festival on Martha's Vineyard, at the end of summer.

Lineup is amazing:

Beck - Wilco - The Avett Brothers are the three headliners.

Support acts include Khruangbin, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Lord Huron, Billy Strings, Aoife O'Donovan, Shovels & Rope, Brett Dennen, The War and Treaty and quite a few more.

They did the first one in 2019, a two-day event with John Fogerty and Phil Lesh headlining, and it got very good reviews. 

 https://www.beachroadweekend.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZgBhyU4IvQ

I appreciate that there are vulnerable segments of society that need resources and special care, but it's not ebola for God's sake.

The vast majority of people will have a bit of a cough and no worse that usual annual flu.

The whole world needs to calm down a bit.

This is not the flu.

Perhaps this story will help. This is not from some Internet rando. The author, Tommy Vietor, is a former policy advisor in the White House:

A friend of mine got #coronavirus. He is younger than me. Played sports in college. Served in the military. As young and healthy as you could be. This is how his wife describes the illness. This is a public health crisis. No one is immune.

The quote from the friend's wife is here:

It started with a headache and a 100 temp on day 1. Day 2 his fever spiked (likes to linger in the 103 range) with bad body aches and chills. The cough started. Days 3 and 4 he got much worse. He was exposed to TB in the military and we were worried about his lungs, so he went on an antibiotic a few days ago. Last night he went on an anti-malaria medication. This evening he took a nosedive again. We are hopeful he will turn a corner here soon -1 am keeping a close eye on his oxygen, heart rate and temp. We are waiting to see how long we need to be in quarantine - will be over 2 weeks. It can be serious - even for the young and healthy.

Or perhaps this article will help:

Longtime health reporter Charles Ornstein says that comparing the novel coronavirus to the flu is dangerously inaccurate. Not one public health expert he trusts has called that comparison valid. Here’s why.

This Coronavirus Is Unlike Anything in Our Lifetime, and We Have to Stop Comparing It to the Flu

Show canceled so never mind.

Tickets have been sold.