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And if you wanna get really nerdy, you could include unreleased studio stuff from the Playback box set. The raw sessions for Let Me Up have some great garage rock before Tom and Mike drenched it in lame keyboards. Also some interesting songs that didn't really get finished for an aborted attempt at a Heartbreakers album before Full Moon Fever. A couple good outtakes from Long After Dark, too. And more coming out on the new box set. Does that make three box sets now?
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My fave album is Hard Promises and then Damn The Torpedoes but Long After Dark was a sneakily great record to my ears. I think it really holds up, except for the synth sound on You Got Lucky. The raunchy heavy guitar tones when Tom and Mike are both on electrics is phenomenal. Give it a listen on headphones at a good volume and listen for the guitar interplay on what may seem like somewhat generic early 80s FM rock, you might be surprised or maybe you are already hip to it. The songwriting is also better than it might appear with just a casual listen. Straight Into Darkness, yeah, what a song. Some people think it sounds Springsteen-like. It does tell a story more interestingly by leaving out lots of the details.
yeah lots of hits and concert staples on Wildflowers and Full Moon Fever, but a few under the radar tunes are on each, depending on your tastes.
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Oh I'll play this game all day long and twice on Sunday, as they say!
The Wild One, Forever
Mystery Man
No Second Thoughts
When The Time Comes
You Tell Me
Louissiana Rain
Casa Dega
The Insider
You Can Still Change Your Mind
Nightwatchman
We Stand A Chance
Between Two Worlds
The Best Of Everything
Dogs On The Run
Let Me Up I've Had Enough
Depending On You
All The Wrong Reasons
You and I Will Meet Again
House In The Woods
A Higher Place
Climb That Hill
Hung Up and Overdue
Echo
Billy The Kid
Dreamville
Like A Diamond
No Reason To Cry
Something Good Coming
and from Hypnotic Eye, I got nothing I think is all that great. Same for Highway Companion.
I look forward to seeing what you come up with!
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I didn't go to the movies last night, instead we just stayed home and watched the DVD of 7/7/89. Played it probably louder than the theaters around here do, just on a smaller screen!
The whole first set was strong and the Blow Away coda when Brent goes off vocally and musically the band brings the song to a peak with an Allmans-like ending was a great moment. The second set was up and down, with a shaky Box of Rain and a fair Scarlet. Fire On The Mountain was where it got going to my ears and it was OK after than until a very strong Wharf Rat and a solid Heaven's Door. Pretty good stuff for 1989, I usually enjoy that year more with video than with audio alone, especially when JG is rocking out or smiling or connecting with Brent or really feeling it and you can tell from watching him.
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Thanks. That doesn't sound as bad as some people have made it seem.
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Read the latest Dead book - the one from 95 on --- it wasn't that bad, I guess it just confirms all the rumors that was always being tossed around. If a 1/4 of the stuff about Phil's wife is true in the book, I can't imagine having to deal with her. The author does take some unneeded pot-shots at Phil, I can see why he didn't want to talk to the author. If anyone came out in a poor light in the book, it was definitely the Lesh's. But again, if true - the Lesh's pulled some shitty stuff.
I definitely do not want to read this book, its got too much negativity for my tastes and I don't want to support that. I am also out of the rumor loop so I've never heard any specific shady thing that the Lesh's have done. Would you mind giving me just one example of something they have done or have been rumored to have done that is shady so I can know what people are talking about without having to sort through the trash?
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There's a video on YT where he talks about how he got it. I think he has had it since the late 70s or 1980s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8H08Xs_w8A
It also shows a 14 year old Marty playing with Lester Flatts
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part of the problem scheduling the tour, I think, is that Marty Stuart already has a bunch of dates booked on his own, so this tour has to work around that.
I think Marty plays Clarence White's B-bender (or is it an E-bender?) guitar pretty regularly. Check how hot they are on their own, with Kenny Vaughan on second guitar...
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Is anyone else going out of the minds with excitement about this 50th anniversary tour for The Byrds' Sweethearts of the Rodeo album with Chris Hillman and Roger McGuinn backed by Marty Stuart and his crack band?
So far I cannot make any of the dates but they keep promising to add more. This is one I cannot miss.
Tangential Wilco connection: they are playing One Hundred Years From Now, still on my dream wishlist to hear Wilco play the shit out of.
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Here's a playlist I made after my friend challenged me to use only what was on my phone to create one on this theme. Lots of great lyrics in these songs that resonate with me for the times we find ourselves in.
Beware of Darkness – George Harrison
Masters of War – Bob Dylan
Give Me Some Truth – John Lennon
What Are Their Names? – David Crosby
War Pigs – Black Sabbath
Revolution – The Beatles
Won’t Get Fooled Again – The Who
Lunatic Fringe – Red Rider
A Farewell To Kings – Rush
Its Alright Ma I’m Only Bleeding – Bob Dylan
Tramp The Dirt Down – Elvis Costello
Money – Pink Floyd
Us and Them – Pink Floyd
License To Kill – Bob Dylan
Isn’t It A Pity – George Harrison
I’m Amazed - My Morning Jacket
Border Song – Elton John
All Things Must Pass – George Harrison
Imagine – John Lennon
Touch of Grey – Grateful Dead
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11/2/83 - not sure if I heard this one before.
"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot! Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*. *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.
Stoked! This is a great show, one of the best of the year, IMO. Fall tour '83 was strong. I love those two shows in Santa Fe, as well. 9/10/83 and 9/11/83
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yeah, I'm more interested in what the next Dave's Pick is going to be, too. Announcement should come soon.
sorry to continue the topic, mountain bed, but I happened to hear Mayer interviewed on Gans' radio show on Sirius M this AM and I am so impressed with his take on things and his attitude, specifically that way that he addressed the questions of the slow tempos. His answer was nuanced, fair, acknowledged different points of view and was not inflammatory but rather concilliatory. To paraphrase he said even though he agrees that the tempos are sometimes too slow, he thinks its up to the singer and the composer of the song to decide what they want, what they are comfortable with and what they think will make the song the best in their view. He stressed the democracy in the band and gave an example of how they played Fire On The Mountain faster than the old guys wanted because Otiel, as the singer, said he needed it to be at a faster tempo to be able to sing in and play the bass at the same time. He said he thinks the tempos are better this tour than they were on the first couple.
Every person is a complex mixed bag, but there is a lot about Mayer as a person that I have a lot of respect for.
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.... and the electric parts are Jeff in pure “SG/prunes/custard/and migraines” mode.
I don't know wtf you are talking about but it sounds cool/weird! I mean I get the SG part, but what do prunes, custard and migraines have to do with his guitar tone or playing? Serious question, actually.
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We just saw Gillian and Dave as acoustic duo and they once again had us mesmerized and blown away at not just their locked in harmonies, his stunning fingerpicking, and the authentic living representation of archaic folk music but even more by the deep well of collective consciousness from which they seem to draw, making simple folk music feel like a profound cosmic experience.
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That sounds like a Lester Bangs quote. But what I'm talking about is Jeff referring disparagingly to a particular style of rock that they play just a few songs of each night. I'd be thrilled with an entire Wilco concert of simple rock 'n' roll, which I would never call dumb.
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Just heard You Never Know for the first time in a year or so. That might be my least favorite.
Funny, its one of my favorites, a second cousin to one of my top 5 songs, Monday, with the pounding piano riff Jerry Lee Lewis style. I like rock 'n' roll in the classic sense and Wilco does it as good as anyone. I've always wished they'd do a bunch more songs in that Chuck Berry/Sun Studios/Chess Records vein, just simple rock 'n' roll, they are so freaking good at it. I get the sense that they do it sheepishly, like they are slightly embarrassed by playing it. Hasn't Jeff called it dumb rock?
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I haven't done a single studio album compilation, but I did do a three CD compilation using a mix of studio and officially released live stuff for a friend I wanted to get into Wilco.
Wilco Plays Folk Rock
Normal American Kids
Wishful Thinking
At My Window Sad and Lonely
One Sunday Morning
She's A Jar
One By One
Far Far Away
Too Far Apart
Its Just That Simple
Say You Miss Me
Country Disappeared
True Love Will Find You In The End
Wilco Plays Art Rock
Misunderstood
I Am Trying To Break Your Heart
Art of Almost
Ashes of American Flags
Sunken Treasure
At Least That's What You Said
One Wing
via Chicago
Poor Places
Spiders (Kidsmoke)
Reservations
Wilco Rocks Out
One Hundred Years From Now
Casino Queen
Wilco (the song)
Box Full of Letters
You Never Know
War On War
Handshake Drugs
Hotel Arizona
Heavy Metal Drummer
Shot In The Arm
I Got You
Outtasite (Outta Mind)
I'm The Man Who Loves You
Monday
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I saw Tom Petty a bunch, going back to 1985, all through the years when they were just a straight up 5 piece rock 'n' roll band with a bunch of songs of subtle genius that spoke to experiences almost everyone in America has. I kept seeing them when they added a new guy multi-instrumentalist to fill in the sound for all those Full Moon Fever songs. By the time of the tour for Into The Great Wide Open in 1991 I think, I had seen the top hat schtick for Don't Come Around Here No More every single time I saw them. They got so far away from their stripped down rock 'n' roll roots with the goofy Keebler elf tree stage set up, the roadies in masks running around chasing Tom while a strobe light flashed and taking the top hat out of the trunk and all that shit. I was fuckin' done. You can see this on the VHS they released, Take The Highway Live, which never got put on DVD. Its the very show I was at in Oakland.
But just when I gave up on Petty, he reinvented himself with the genius of Wildflowers and all was good again for another 15 years or so.
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There's some crazy things being said all over the internet but this thread might take the cake for some of the most insane comments!
Although most people in this thread are demonstrably wrong.
And man, y'all hate some great songs. Which I guess is good? Or confusing?
C'mon people, get this thing started! Quote what you think are the insane comments!/who is wrong/great songs people hate so we can debate this shit!
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That's easy for me, Kicking Television. I don't like punk at all.
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Ashes of American Flags
Monday
both from the live DVD, for me either or both are just the absolute peak of what makes Wilco great! Its hard to not throw Handshake Drugs and Impossible Germany in there for the blazing guitar ensemble performances. When Pat rocks out on guitar together with Nels and Jeff, that's the good stuff for me.
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Solo acoustic dates in those four cities.
https://www.jambase.com/article/neil-young-announces-summer-2018-solo-acoustic-dates
plus these three festivals with Promise of the Real
https://www.pollstar.com/artist/neil-young-19170?tab=upcomingDates&page=0
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I'll take Neil with Crazy Horse, of course, but at this point based on shows I've seen, I'd prefer to see Neil live with the young guys in Promise Of The Real, they were so great last year. I really hope they add a summer tour to the three festival dates they already have scheduled this summer. You never know with Neil, he can change his mind quickly.
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Another great Van collaboration album, in my view, is the killer rollicking rockabilly/boogie record he did with Jerry Lee Lewis' sister, Linda Gail Lewis, on piano called You Win Again. She kicks ass and what a great fun collection of songs.
Tom Petty
in Someone Else's Song
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I was at that show. Wildflowers tour (and album) to my ears was a major revitalization after the not so great Into The Great Wide Open tour.
Here are a few other rarities to consider:
Make That Connection - Let Me Up B side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DsbFIJTFm4
Down The Line - Full Moon Fever outtake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmszwodDZ6Q
Keeping Me Alive - Long After Dark outtake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtmLysh4ih0
Ways To Be Wicked - TP & HB version of the tune they gave to Lone Justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qALwpkQMoHg