Shug
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I listened to it last night for the first time, what a warm rich recording. They get a great sound up in that Applehead Studio in Woodstock. The bass sounds fantastic I'm very happy with the vocal blend of John Hogg and Rich Robinson. Hogg sounds great doing the high back up to Rich's lead vocals on Wiser Time and they are also killing it vocally on the majestic Glad and Sorry.
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The last recordings of the late great Eddie Harsch reunited with Rich and Marc and Sven in front of loving fans one last time before he left us for well deserved peace and freedom from suffering at last. We are going to two nights in SF and one in PHX this Fall! So stoked!!!!
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I wonder who he is talking about about the whole "There are a few bands out there right now that are using names that maybe shouldn't be. That's another discussion"
My guess is Skynryd. Its in the Southern rock genre and they have one original member, one of the three main guitarists. And I think part of his point is that there should never again be a band calling itself The Allman Brothers Band now that Greg is gone. I agree with him.
In my opinion, there is no Boston without the great and mighty voice of Brad Delp. That is probably not even on Derek's radar but I think his statement applies to the current touring band calling itself Boston.
I doubt he's talking about Dead and Co or versions of the Dead without Garcia, but its possible he is. Three original members and one of them is one of the two lead vocalists and main songwriters. And, as others noted, they also aren't calling it the Grateful Dead, so that also does not really fit Derek's statement.
Chicago still has one of the three original lead vocalists and all three of the original horn section, which has always been a defining part of their sound. I'm OK with that band calling itself Chicago.
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If by "epic" you mean really awesome, I think of the performances I want played at my wake because they are so goddamned soulful and would be a great send off:
The Band with the Staple Singers - The Weight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCSzL5-SPHM
Billy Preston is The Man! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16q6b9_george-harrison-billy-preston-that-s-the-way-god-planned-it-live-1971_music
Randy Meisner is also The Man! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31ki01_eagles-take-it-to-the-limit-live-at-the-capital-centre-1977_music
If you mean it rocks the fuck out, I'd go with:
Epic Wilco guitar three way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Jvg58MnfM
Black Crowes when they were young and hungry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgNmWXn-f6A
If you mean a really long song, I think of stuff like this early Journey, Of A Lifetime with Neal Schon shredding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRLAHB1uGa4
I could go on and on, like this Marcus King Band
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Overall the documentary is certainly excellent. Really is more the story of Jerry Garcia in the Grateful Dead, just as the Other One documentary had the focus on Weir. But this makes the case that Jerry was the most important and it was his vision that was being pursued. Others may disagree.
The next President did a great job representing the Deadhead experience.
Don't spoil what occurs during Hunter's appearance for anyone.
I agree that the film holds the view that Jerry was the primary visionary in the band. I have mixed thoughts about whether that is true, but the film certainly seems to think so, even though there is mention (from McNally) of the importance of the different musical backgrounds of the musicians and the conversationality of the Dead's music coming from bluegrass (or Dixieland jazz, as David Crosby would say)
I got a chuckle from Al Franken's comments comparing a May '80 Althea to a Hampton '81 Althea. "That one has the flavor of the May '80, but its NOT the May '80 version". Sounds exactly like something any Deadhead including me might say. "I'm not a Dead scholar, I'm a Dead fan." They did a GREAT job sound editing this thing, going back and forth between the two versions while it was being discussed. I loved hearing that.
Hard to resist telling the story of Hunter's appearance, but it was hilarious to me and fucking perfect, I loved it.
Overall, after watching 5 episodes, I have been emotionally moved, entertained, heard a few stories I didn't know about and think they have created an excellent document to show to people who were not there what the Dead are all about and how they got that way. This is what I will show people when they want to know about the Dead. That and a good batch of music.
Most emotional parts for me:
Steve Wiz Leonard almost losing it when relating seeing tears come down Jerry's face while playing Morning Dew at the last show of the Europe '72 tour.
Close up of Jerry singing Stella Blue coming out of Space while Steve Silberman describes the psychedelic soul journey a second set could be particularly for those tripping.
Just seeing the looks of ecstasy on the faces of the dancers and spinners in all the 80s crowd shots, which hit home very hard how important those times were to me and how terribly much I miss them.
Watching the shots of people with their tape collections and close up of the tapes themselves and the tape covers made me determined that I will never get rid of my 300 hours of cassette tapes. They are of no value to anyone except sentimental value to me.
Looking forward to AND dreading the last episode, its gonna be sad.
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Can't remember which forum I read about it on, maybe it was an Archive review but someone was remembering the time Dark Star Orchestra recreated 9/27/72 Stanley Theatre at the Great American Music Hall in SF. Holy shit, that would've been an incredible show because what ever they do, they do it right, and in that tiny venue with all its history? Talk about the "Just Exactly Perfect Band"!
The first time I saw DSO in 2001 they did a '73 show. Hearing a real live fire breathing monster of a band do the '73 arrangement of Eyes left me a puddle of goo on the floor. I've not caught a 70s show from them since then, unfortunately, but they are still great even doing 80s and 90s shows.
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I saw the Terrapin Flyer crew play as Melvin Seals band and they also sat in with local Dead cover band Xtra Ticket. One guy did Jerry's vocals and another did lead guitar. The guitar was great really nice tone and fiery leads. DSO are the best Dead cover band to my ears. I love them especially when they do a early 70s show which is now rare for them
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The Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame is pretty laughable and ridiculous to me.
I don't see "derivative" as a negative. Innovation in art, IMO, is overrated Playing music in a style and tradition of what has come before, particularly when that style has become exceedingly rare, as the Crowes brand of roots rock was in the 90s, is a fine thing to do, especially when you can do it as good as its ever been done (a point for which there will understandably be varying opinons).
To me, this performance is as good as the Stones in '72 or '69, or anything by Delaney and Bonnie, Joe Cocker, Leon Russell or anybody else from the late 60s or early 70s. When the Crowes were on, they were pretty fucking amazing to me. And they knew their American roots musical history and paid homage to it at every show they did.
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Chris is such a douche bag, he was just the poseur face of the band and a good lead singer before his voice was shot.. Now he's a fake hippie in a third rate Jerry Garcia Band wannabe band. . His brother is the architect of the Black Crowes sound, along with Marc Ford, Its not a cover band when you are playing your own songs
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I'm forcing myself to listen to these shows in order, so we listened to nothing but 5/5 last night. WOW! Betty does not get enough credit. "Recorded by Betty Cantor Jackson" doesn't come anywhere close to enough credit in response to the beauty, clarity, and separation of instruments and the breathing space of her fine fine mixes that she did in real time! Amazing work, thank you thank you thank you Betty!. This kind of recording quality really helps me hear how good a given performance is. I guess I have to hear all the details, that's why almost no AUDs sound good to me. I did not A and B this release with my low gen SBD tapes or the Charlie Miller SBDs on archive.org yet, but it sure sounds incredible!
The entire first set was smoking, I have held the Sugaree and the Peggy-O as the best versions ever of those tunes, but I never realized how fantastic the Tennessee Jed was and really top versions of all the songs. Second set, too, did not let up. That Scarlet Fire can stand up to any others and it was solid all the way through to a killer Johnny B Goode, which had me thinking "The Grateful Dead are the second best rock band in history at covering Chuck Berry." #1 is the Stones, of course. Last night in the moment, this seemed like a top ten first set of all time, there really was no weak spot for me. it was revelatory.
My non Deadhead wife said during Looks Like Rain "this is the first time ever I could say I loved Donna's singing" She also started out finding only 1972 and the acoustic sets from 1980 and anything with Pigpen as enjoyable Dead. Now she's saying she likes the Dead from the late 60s all through the 70s, ha ha ha! My plan to convert her slowly but surely is working! She also astutely says that Northeast shows are better than West Coast shows, they just played tighter and sharper and more energetically because those East Coast crowds demanded it. You had to bring your A game for tough crowds in NYC, Philly, Boston, etc.
Probably gonna have to play Boston tonight, but there was something really cool about listening to New Haven exactly 40 years to the day after it happened. I'm stoked!
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Trump's freelancing now?
Ha ha ha, good one!
For me, the last chance for a quality Zepp reunion show/tour in the US was right after the 2007 gig in London. That was pretty solid in performance and song selection, to me. Its waaaayyyy too late to do it now, mostly because of Plant's aging vocal cords, as mentioned.
I saw both Page Plant tours in the mid 90s and that was my Zepp reunion show. I really wish JPJ had not been snubbed, but Michael Lee was fucking phenomenal and probably better by a little bit than Jason Bonham. I dig 'em both but Michael Lee was so good on the Unledded DVD performances and the shows I saw. Hey Hey What Can I Do was one of the most hard rocking arena performances and audience participations I've seen by any band ever in an arena.
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This could be true, but my guess it that its not. It does come from a website that calls itself "useless info" and a writer who seems mostly interested in getting credit for being right.
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Guess I should also post this in the JTE thread since that was the highlight of the show for me.
And I forgot to mention that as good as JTE was with the Sadies backing him, he did a 4 song solo acoustic part of his set. It was shocking to feel his music get MORE powerful when he played solo, but those who know his live show know that's what he does and he's still doing it.
Son Volt show last night in Phoenix turned out to be the Sadies opening doing their Ennio Morricone spaghetti western/rockabilly thing and then them backing Justin Townes Earle with the addition of Justin's guitar player Paul Niehaus. Son Volt headlined.
It didn't help Son Volt stand out for me that they had to go on after a fucking stunningly brilliant set by Justin Townes Earle. The Sadies backing him were incredible! Instead of their guitars, they switched to mandolin and fiddle and electric piano and JTE's guy Paul Niehaus played pedal steel and slide (also on a Les Paul). They could play any style Justin threw at them, old timey blues or classic country, folk or rockabilly, and make it sound authentic. I felt like I was watching talent on that was close to the level of Petty or the Grateful Dead or the Band backing Dylan or the Heartbreakers backing Johnny Cash, in the sense that it was just a superb pairing of a seasoned, road tested roots rock band backing a genius solo performer with musical telepathy. Justin has such a mastery of his craft as a performer and singer/songwriter and he makes it looks effortless. I really just hated to see his set end. It looks like this tour has just started and I don't know if the Sadies have ever backed him before, but they were tight and totally spot on. If you like either Sadies or JTE or just like solid roots rock, try to catch this tour, it was amazingly great!
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Son Volt show last night in Phoenix turned out to be the Sadies opening doing their Ennio Morricone spaghetti western/rockabilly thing and then them backing Justin Townes Earle with the addition of Justin's guitar player Paul Niehaus. Son Volt headlined.
I really liked Son Volt's lead guitarist, that guy has his Mick Taylor sound and licks down pat, he played a lot of slide on a Les Paul and it really worked. The keyboard guy was good too and slid over to pedal steel for a song or two which was also really good. The rhythm section was solid. Son Volt's songs, however, for me were just a little too 90s roots pop rock, sounded kinda dated to that time period, a little too simplistic, I guess. It was pleasant and good to hear the songs from Trace, but just when they would hit a nice groove and start to dig in, they'd end the song. I kept hoping they'd extend those songs into a little mini jam, but that's not what they do.
It also didn't help Son Volt stand out for me that they had to go on after a fucking stunningly brilliant set by Justin Townes Earle. The Sadies backing him were incredible! Instead of their guitars, they switched to mandolin and fiddle and electric piano and JTE's guy Paul Niehaus played pedal steel and slide (also on a Les Paul). They could play any style Justin threw at them, old timey blues or classic country, folk or rockabilly, and make it sound authentic. I felt like I was watching talent on that was close to the level of Petty or the Grateful Dead or the Band backing Dylan or the Heartbreakers backing Johnny Cash, in the sense that it was just a superb pairing of a seasoned, road tested roots rock band backing a genius solo performer with musical telepathy. Justin has such a mastery of his craft as a performer and singer/songwriter and he makes it looks effortless. I really just hated to see his set end. It looks like this tour has just started and I don't know if the Sadies have ever backed him before, but they were tight and totally spot on. If you like either Sadies or JTE or just like solid roots rock, try to catch this tour, it was amazingly great!
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Kind of Bird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vCC116ud5Q
Hot 'Lanta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iv2RrbWKv8
Les Brers in A Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qzdrq8nhpg
I think the music speaks for itself.
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The jazz elements that the Allmans fused into their blues and Southern R&B is to me and to most knowledgeable fans, what sets the Allmans apart. The Allmans and The Grateful Dead in their primes, remain at the highest tier of any genre of rock music, in my book. Skynyrd (who were still great in their prime) and other Southern rock bands, to me, aren't even in the same league as the Allmans. They are to the Allmans like what Blues Traveller and Spin Doctors were to the Dead.
From Butch's last interview, here's what Chick Corea had to say about the Allmans:
But my legacy, I’m very, very, very proud of. Here’s one that really nailed it, is back in the early ‘70s, a new form of jazz came along called fusion – pretty much led by Return to Forever, Chick Correa’s band. Chick Correa, Lenny White, Stanley Clark – you know, that group. ‘Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy’ – just an incredible record.
“Well, one day at The Beacon, Lenny White was there sitting in with us, and Chick came with him. Chick didn’t sit in with us, but we were back stage talking. And I asked him, “Where’d you guys come up with that idea for ‘Hymn to the Seventh Galaxy’ and all that.
“And he just kind of looked at me funny and said, ‘We got it from you guys.’ I said, ‘What?’ He said, ‘Hell yeah, we’re down in the Village in New York playing for 200 or 300 people and you guys are selling out Madison Square Garden four nights in a row. We could tell what you were doing, we could hear Miles Davis and John Coltrane and Charlie Parker and all that in what you were playing.
“ ’So we figured, what the hell? Why don’t we come from the other direction? Y’all came from rock ‘n’ roll and blues and added jazz to it. How ‘bout we come from jazz and add a little bit of rock ‘n’ roll to it?’ He said, ‘We never sold out Madison Square Garden four nights in a row, but we made a hell of a lot more money once we started doing that.’ [Laughs]
“Albums like ‘Hymn to the Seventh Galaxy’ or Mahavishnu Orchestra’s ‘Inner Mounting Flame,’ those are some of the greatest records ever made. And to know that I had something do with that even being in existence – I mean, I’m very, very proud. That’s right at the top of what I’m most proud of with my legacy." - Butch Trucks, 2017
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I just found out that the bill for the Son Volt show I'm going to this Saturday in Phoenix, AZ is Son Volt, Justin Townes Earle and The Sadies opening the show. Wow, this should be a great night of music!
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Yep, same old boring setlist. I've said it before, but with a catalog of songs like he has and one of the most seasoned and road-tested rock 'n' roll bands on the planet, its a colossal shame and waste that he does shows like this, IMO. A lot of my disappointment is that I have been such a fan for so long and I know what they are capable of.
If they can't rock for 2 hours anymore, maybe its time for that all acoustic, sit down and play, theater tour. But then all the mainstream fans they've pandered to for the past two decades would complain.
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I just picked up Dicks Picks 11 Stanley Theatre 9-27-72 and had a little listening party this weekend with it. I'm seeing where the folks who think so highly of Sept, Nov, and Dec '72 are coming from. I still think Veneta is an all-time peak show, but they really didn't stop there, they kept that peak going for pretty much the rest of the year. And it all started out with that nice March New York City run followed by Europe and then on to show after great show in Aug - Dec.
9-27-72 has a Dark Star>Cumberland followed by Attics of My Life and they had already done Brokedown Palace mid-first set. Morning Dew opener? Yes please! Smoking Deal and Big River, with a Playin' and Bird Song both in the first set, holy shit what a setlist!
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How timely! Nice photos, sounds like a show I will enjoy and what a nice solid double bill its gonna be with Justin Townes Earle.
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I haven't seen Son Volt since the Trace tour, but I am going to see the co-headlining (?) tour with Justin Townes Earle later this month. What are Son Volt shows like these days, all acoustic-y or will there be electric guitars and drums and bass rock band style?
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Yeah, Fort Collins, not Boulder. Thanks for the correction, Calvino!
Here's some samples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQKjp9fTL1k
The Grateful Dead
in Someone Else's Song
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I agree, but I'll add that Garcia (and the rest of the band to the degree that they chose to keep touring) made the choices, difficult as they may have been, to let opiate addiciton and the weight of responsibility for the Dead scene devour him. He could have made different choices and ultimately only he is responsible for what he allowed to happen to him. The fact that it was a choice makes it all the more painful to me.