worrierking

It wasn't worth it. 

This Thread reminded me of this site...

 

 

http://wgo.signal11.org.uk/wgo.htm

Yes, I am really enjoying that site.  I will not have a productive day at work.

Warren Zevon's grunt at 2:34 of Lawyer's Guns and Money.

My favorite Beatle moment is when John comes in with the "Life is very Short" part of "We Can Work it Out."  It is the most perfect example of how Paul and John combined to create musical masterpieces.  Paul's ridiculously optimistic, poppy, happy tune is brought crashing down to earth by the ever-cynical, realistic, truth-telling John both lyrically and musically.  Musical bliss.

I think that Los Lobos went into the studio with Paul with the understanding that they would be his backing band on a song. When they got to the studio, Paul didn't have a song after all, and asked them to "jam" something out. They said they didn't work that way, and so the next day, in order to get out of the studio, they trotted out a song they were working on, but hadn't recorded yet. The next thing they knew - the album came out with the song and they had no writing credits.

 

The whole story, (well at least the whole story according to Steve Berlin) is here. 

Somebody with better inside knowledge of the music business can chime in and tell me where I am wrong, but where the heck are the managers/agents in all this?  These guys are paid on a percentage of revenue right?  Wouldn't it be their job to make sure that if the Los Lobos guys went into the studio with Paul Simon that they got any writing credit for their work if it was proper?  If you are Paul Simon's business manager/agent/lawyer wouldn't it be your job to make sure he didn't do anything that would potentially get him sued?  I can't believe this would be handled entirely by the musicians like it seems in the story as told by Berlin.

I read some material related to this controversy a few years ago here. I love Los Lobos and I love their records, but I just don't believe this. They ended up on Graceland, on one of the lesser songs on the album and I think they did get writers credit for it. Perhaps Simon did take some of their ideas and turn it into the big hit single. What do I or anyone know of this really. It won't be the first or last time this happens. (we an crank up the Robbie Robertson/Levon Helm feud if you want.) There is a book out on Duke Ellington with an insightful article about it in the New Yorker (I haven't read the book) but the Duke did about the same thing as Paul Simon and worse, taking riffs his band members thought up and turning them into hits. Does that lessen his stature? Not really according to the reviewer (and apparently the author.) Band leaders do this all the time. They take a bit of inspiration and spin it into masterpieces. Sometimes that's what it takes to bring an idea to fruition. I guess it kind of sucks, but somehow Los Lobos have done fine for themselves without Paul Simon's help. And Duke's men became legends in their own right being part of his band too. It is an artistic trade off.

 

(Levon Helm got to sing some kick ass songs that propelled The Band into the artistic stratosphere.)(BTW the movie about Helm is interesting if really really depressing.)

 

LouieB

The song was called All Around the World (The Myth of Fingerprints).  I love the tune and it sounds just like a combination of Paul Simon and Los Lobos would sound like in your imagination.  It pains me that it caused a rift between the artists as I like them both a lot. 

most bands, really.

Almost every band/artist peaks in their mid-late 20s like baseball players.  Some exceptions, but the rule is still pretty solid.

thanks all.

 

is this the guy you are referring to? i think this was during Pig Destroyer's set.

Yes, that's the one.  It's an insanely good shot. Did you take a bunch of him and this was the best one or did you just get very fortunate on one attempt?  If it was the latter that is some serendipity.

Wow, I loved those.  The one of the dude with the hair at the metal fest is fantastic! 

 

 

I've never seen Boudin spelled any other way than the correct way.

 

A Beaumont firm insulting Cajuns:

http://www.zummo.com/products.asp

One other thing about Texas; they spell "Boudin" with an "a".  Only those of us from Louisiana will understand this. 

Everything is bigger in Texas except the interstate on-ramps, which are smaller than my driveway.  How did they miss that?

I am new here and I loved this thread. I read the whole thing, including the fights.  I would like to add a few thoughts.

Touch of Grey is a great song, perhaps the best The Dead ever recorded.  Deadheads should just deal with it and quit squawking about them selling out by recording it and releasing a (gasp) video.  Oh and the band was never the same after Donna Jean left (Not really, just kidding.  I just wanted to induce a heart attack or two). 

The Ramones and AC/DC are the same band, just in different rock subgenres.  Contrary to Nigel Tufnel's opinion, you can be both clever and stupid and both bands do it well.  Rock and roll is supposed to be stupid sometimes.

Mick and Keith should have never got back together with the Stones in the 80s.  The solo efforts of both of them were pretty decent and the Stones have basically sucked since the late 80s.  I would venture to say the the X-Pensive Winos were light years better than the Stones when they were together.  I wish they were doing stuff today.  Whoever said that Exile was overrated was right.  It's not even as good a as Some Girls.

Having seen the movie, I am glad I wasn't at Woodstock.