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[Elixir Sue]

As the defintion of both is completely subjective, i'm interested to hear the answer to that question as well.

Here's the short answer that will save everybody a lot of time: if Dude doesn't like something, it's not art.

[cryptique]

The flaw in that rationale is your defintion of boring and/or beautiful versus someone else's.

...to which I say, "art is subjective."

[MattZ]

The flaw in that rationale is your defintion of boring and/or beautiful versus someone else's.

 

Again - thats my point. Everyone here is talking about craft and using purely subjective concepts when coming to their definition/description. I may think Kenny G or Kinkade are boring or uninspiring. Others think they are insiprational. Can anyone say objectively whether they are artists or a craftsmen? No, of course not.

 

Seems more consistent to me to acknowledge all of this, by just calling all of it art, and then breaking it down into two categories from there: whether you like it or not.

[EL the Famous]

...to which I say, "art is subjective."

 

Exactly.

 

Here's the short answer that will save everybody a lot of time: if Dude doesn't like something, it's not art.

 

Double exactly.

[Dude]

Here's the short answer that will save everybody a lot of time: if Dude doesn't like something, it's not art.

 

That's correct. In fact, I don't like something, it automatically morphs into a huge steamy pile of human feces. I'm special like that.

[cryptique]

That's correct. In fact, I don't like something, it automatically morphs into a huge steamy pile of human feces. I'm special like that.

Apparently you didn't like that sammich I ate for lunch yesterday.

[Elixir Sue]

Double exactly.

The Dude is still a thousand quadrillion times cooler than you, Mr. Legion of Doom.

 

[Dude]

The Dude is still a thousand quadrillion times cooler than you, Mr. Legion of Doom.

You GO GIRL!

[Elixir Sue]

You GO GIRL!

You are SO CLEVER.

[Dude]

You are SO CLEVER.

But am I an artist or a craftsman?

[EL the Famous]

[Dude]

 

And to get the thread back on topic...

 

[Beltmann]

The night Lincoln was shot, you couldn't joke about it. You just couldn't do it. But now, time has gone by, and now it's fair game.

 

Comedy is tragedy plus time.

Pretty sure that was from a Woody Allen flick... maybe Crimes and Misdemeanors? Or maybe it was The Aristocrats. I dunno.

[Spawn's dad]

i think the next time we bomb the art vs. not art bit we launch into a retelling of the aristocrats

[Beltmann]

i think the next time we bomb the art vs. not art bit we launch into a retelling of the aristocrats

One-upmanship has never sounded more appealing.

[Dude]

Pretty sure that was from a Woody Allen flick... maybe Crimes and Misdemeanors? Or maybe it was The Aristocrats. I dunno.

Yeah, the Alan Alda character in C&M who is a caricature of Norman Lear.

[Sir Stewart]

Yeah, the Alan Alda character in C&M who is a caricature of Norman Lear.

No shit? I never heard that.

[Beltmann]

This morning I read an interview with Cristi Puiu, director of the award-winning The Death of Mr. Lazarescu. He made a few comments that seem related to the above discussions:

 

People think of cinema in terms of an industry. But I think it should work like literature

[bjorn_skurj]

But the difference between art and schlock is real.

[Big Perm]

art is sean feeding his pet skunk ralphie.

 

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