Guest scarnella Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I've grown to realize that the lyrics in Loose Fur songs are even more poetic than Wilco lyrics, and they cover much more interesting facets of Jeff's stance against religion than the words in his Wilco songs. Tweedy is an important spokesman for all the bullshit found in religion, and I've become an even bigger fan of Jeff as a poet than a musician. Anybody here already a fan of analyzing Loose Fur songs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HotelColorado Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I am still trying to figure out The Ruling Class. My first instinct is that Tweedy is saying that people use Jesus (or religion in general) at their convenience. 'He resurfaced' gives me the impression that he just kind of pops up. When he starts taking on these modern customs such as just trying to get down or having a new jacket and jeans it's putting God into each individual and letting him walk among us. I am not religious and consider myself pretty moderate politcally, but I think this song is quite honestly a pretty accurate shot at the right wing (GW). When you need to fight a war God is on your side. When you make questionable decisions it is because God instructed you. The Ruling Class has no way to justify the decisions they make in realistic terms so they put it in the hands of someone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmacomber68w Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I am still trying to figure out The Ruling Class. My first instinct is that Tweedy is saying that people use Jesus (or religion in general) at their convenience. 'He resurfaced' gives me the impression that he just kind of pops up. When he starts taking on these modern customs such as just trying to get down or having a new jacket and jeans it's putting God into each individual and letting him walk among us. I am not religious and consider myself pretty moderate politcally, but I think this song is quite honestly a pretty accurate shot at the right wing (GW). When you need to fight a war God is on your side. When you make questionable decisions it is because God instructed you. The Ruling Class has no way to justify the decisions they make in realistic terms so they put it in the hands of someone else. My favorite lyric relating to god is from Lennon, "god is a concept by which we measure our pain". Every time I hear The Ruling Class I think of that song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I am still trying to figure out The Ruling Class. My first instinct is that Tweedy is saying that people use Jesus (or religion in general) at their convenience. 'He resurfaced' gives me the impression that he just kind of pops up. When he starts taking on these modern customs such as just trying to get down or having a new jacket and jeans it's putting God into each individual and letting him walk among us. I am not religious and consider myself pretty moderate politcally, but I think this song is quite honestly a pretty accurate shot at the right wing (GW). When you need to fight a war God is on your side. When you make questionable decisions it is because God instructed you. The Ruling Class has no way to justify the decisions they make in realistic terms so they put it in the hands of someone else. My take on this is quite a bit different. After a bit of difficulty with some nasty personal demons (not chemical related) and depression several years ago, I found it necessary to take a temporary vacation in a nice place where people with demons (chemical and otherwise) and depression go...some voluntary and some involuntary. One day, while waiting to use the pay phone (got to use it once a day), I met a very nice young man struggling with schizophrenia and heroin addiction who introduced himself as 'Jesus'. Those people don't stay in those nice places forever and they very often aren't cured (i.e. find a nice normal life). They very often end up on street corners. My rather literal view of the lyrics is a lot less tortured than the supposed socio-political ties. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar He resurfaced on the sidewalk of my block the other dayyeah it's a fat check sorry charlie, honey, he's back from LA so son you better turn aroundyeah christ is on his way across townhe was getting tired of hanging around yeah he's back jack smoking crackfind him if you wanna get found he's having supper with the upper management of a new regimehe's in a new jacket tax bracket sandals & a dark pair of jeanshe's got deductions right on down the line dippin' ink cleans on all of mankindhave no fear he's right here drinkin' beer just trying to get down he resurfaced on the sidewalk of my block the other dayyeah it's a fat check sorry charlie, honey, he's back from the grave you better turn your frown upside downchrist is on his way across townhe was getting tired of hangin' aroundyea he's back jack shootin' smack find him if you wanna get found yeah he's back jack smokin' crack find him if you wanna get found Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I love the lyrics of this song, but I always just viewed it as a "Christ would be just a regular guy" kind of thing. It's a witty little song, but I don't think it's meant to be a biting political criticism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barnyard pimp Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 He resurfaced on the sidewalk of my block the other dayyeah it's a fat check sorry charlie, honey, he's back from LA "yeah it's a fact, check it, sorry charlie..." I think? he's got deductions right on down the line dippin' ink cleans on all of mankind "dependent claims on all of mankind" I think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 "yeah it's a fact, check it, sorry charlie..." I think? "dependent claims on all of mankind" I think?I've always thought it's check it and dependent claims. It makes the most sense that way. Especially the dependent claims line. If it is somehow anything but dependent claims, I'll be disappointed, because I love that line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HungryHippo Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I love the lyrics of this song, but I always just viewed it as a "Christ would be just a regular guy" kind of thing. It's a witty little song, but I don't think it's meant to be a biting political criticism.this is the way I view the song as well. the bible says that Jesus is going to return to earth at some point, so I've always viewed this song as Christ coming back as a random person and no one really noticing. you know, like that one song, "What if God Was One of Us." but, like religion, this song is open to interpretation. cool to read others' views as they usually end up affecting mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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